one step closer to one global government
[nick] () - 26 03 09 - 18:53

Obama has been talking about making a single currency for mexico, the u.s, and canada.

Yep I’m just sitting back and waiting for the end of it all, laughing the whole time.

It’s kind of like being on a sinking ship, but even though theirs a giant hole in the ship no body thinks it’s sinking.
And if you tell somebody it’s sinking they say your a liar.
Blak-Toothgrin - 27 03 09 - 00:04

Or a conspiracy theorist lol.
A.O.C. - 27 03 09 - 00:37

this is the economical effect of globalization the centralization of economic power you think if China is a Marxist state they don’t favor hegemony and globalization ?? monetarist systems tend to go into hybridization to put monopoly on the world
Menace - 27 03 09 - 09:23

i thought the single currency for North America was brought about by the bush administration when he signed the NAU agreement in early 2008
AuthorityisSlavery - 27 03 09 - 10:58

This has been a long time coming. Bush and Obama both support the enslavement of U.S. citizens by controlling their money. Nixon secured this by eliminating the gold standard. Government runaway spending will be the reason for the impending U.S. downfall. In an anarchist society, barter trade would be ideal if an economic system were to be needed at all.

Go team Red Stars! Woohoo! (sarcasm, for those with no sense of humor)
zero - 27 03 09 - 12:24

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!??!!
im scared
ken () - 27 03 09 - 17:10

America is just trying to avoid the inevitable, bankruptcy is inevitable whatever they do.

“Don’t fuck with america, it’s not nice to pick on retards”
Blak-Toothgrin - 27 03 09 - 18:13

You know, everyone hates on America and I don’t think everyone is as informed as they should be. I hate defending the country that fucks me on a daily basis (since I am owned by it for the next few years), but I would rather defend truth than my opinion on the matter.

America is one of the greatest countries on earth. We are the super power because of our intellect. If we truly were retarded, we wouldn’t own practically most of the world financially, not to mention be able to live in any lifestyle of your choosing.

People hate on America, but continue to live in this country. If you hate it so much, then get the fuck out. Many who hate on the country also have never done anything to support it (ie military, police, any of the agencies), so they really have no say on what goes on. Do you think everything leftist is true in regards to what we do to other countries? That “Economic hit man” crap is true to a point, just like Michael Moore’s “Documentaries”, but if you believe everything that is said without doing your own research or EXPERIENCING something for yourself then you really have no idea.

I say for every anarchist that truly wants to change the system, they must play the game first. How on earth are you going to topple the United States government when you have no knowledge of its inner workings? Join an agency, join the marines or the army, SEE what it is like to work for the system and how it can be changed. Everyone here obviously isn’t doing anything productive or worthwhile to change it as we speak, other than type on a forum on how you hate it so much.

I have so many ways of toppling the system it’s ridiculous. You learn how to maneuver against your enemy by becoming your enemy, and looking through its eyes. Will I act on those ways… not until necessary.

You can have all the rallies and reform movements you want, but until you now what the system is made out of you have no idea how to bring it down.

Bottom line: Don’t think you know baseball and how it’s played by watching it on the sidelines. It’s a whole nother ball game once you step up to the plate.

- Stan
Stan () - 27 03 09 - 19:02

Here’s something I think everyone should watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeYHYJst-..

It’s about police brutality. Anyone who believes this shit is an idiot, and there’s videos like this all across the web spreading fake propaganda for government hatred. All people see if the police beating up somebody, but no one knows what led up to that point.

Did he/she have a gun? Were they making threatening remarks? Has there been a warrant out for this person’s arrest for dangerous crimes? Nothing is shown of that nature in the video.

But then you get the shows on America’s Most Wanted where the cop is doing his job and is shot by some armed felon because he didn’t take the precautionary measures, and then everyone wonders why the fuck he didn’t do his job.

I feel sorry for the fuzz. They can’t win no matter what, and the vast majority are just regular people trying to put food on the table for their family, and who believe they’re doing good for this country. To say fuck the police is a fucking disrespect to men trying to uphold civility in society.

Am I wrong? Am I a right-wing nazi for thinking this way, or does it make sense?

- Stan
Stan () - 27 03 09 - 20:26

justify these…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd9T8WyrK..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piuy07W41..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy8vPkG9L..
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 01:42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXFMIbkKM..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck3iNnvnj..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqbmasNeO.. full vid
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 01:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96WPpn1dQ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBeB81PPl..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riboisae0..
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 01:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClIdjK6W..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63FEamhp..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aig6cUDyD..
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 01:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pukow7eN..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi_I8I8EP.. full vid
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 01:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nCjpBchQ..
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 01:50

So i was searching through your list, A.O.C when i found this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipb_PeXOd..
The worst one in my opinion.
[Blak-Toothgrin] - 28 03 09 - 03:03

And on a side note i just got writing to americaspower.org.
You’ve seen their adds about clean coal. Well, come to find out that was just a fib to get environmentalist’s off their back.
These people are fucking crazy, saying it’s our most abundant fuel and it’s clean as hell. Dammit this makes me really angry
Here was my message i sent them: if you want to contact them just goto their web page and press contact
anyway here it is:

“clean coal?
Truth is, there is no such thing.
Wind energy can power 30% of the earth. Solar energy can power another 30. Geothermal energy can power 40%. Oh yeah then there is tidal energy as well.

So why do you still use coal?
Money, no other reason but that.
Damn capitalists.”

This is truly outrageous.
[Blak-Toothgrin] - 28 03 09 - 03:24

And by the way they spent 50 BILLION on trying to make coal “cleaner”.
[Blak-Toothgrin] - 28 03 09 - 03:25

All of those videos are classic examples of stupid people doing stupid things when they shouldn’t. You have these grad students today (second video) who are smart enough to go to college but dumb enough to not recognize a police officer in uniform, and yet they wonder why they are treated the way they do. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, as a member of the armed forces who deals with searching, securing, and detaining Iraqis, you can’t give these people an option. You deal with it enough to know that if you don’t handle the situation, the situation will handle you. Most people these cops come up against are either cracked out of their mind or trying to run from the police for one reason or another. It comes down to you or them, and every time the police are going to take you out, because they want to go home.

As for the 1st video, being drunk in public in the middle of the day should serve as a warning enough.

When the kid gets beat in the jail cell (third video) of course there’s no audio (how convenient). You don’t know what the cops have gone through with her before, you don’t know what she’s saying to them (possibly threatening them with their lives, which is more than likely the case), and you clearly see an act of “fuck you” when she kicks her shoe at them, so it should be obvious that there is an attitude problem, yet the audience only sees the violence.

When you deal with this shit all the time it becomes annoying, similarly to how many of you view America’s government as annoying. Your natural instinct is to become hostile and immediately withdrawn sympathetically towards the thing that you hate (or person). I’d like to see the videos where the cop isn’t doing his job and gets shot. Oh wait, they won’t show you that on the air, because that doesn’t make for good news. Instead we just say “police offer found dead” and no one thinks any different.

This country’s fucked up because we have fucked up people living in it.

- Stan
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 04:15

I’ll finish watching the rest of those videos when I get off from work.
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 04:15

To be honest, i don’t care if she was casting a fucking spell over him, that wasn’t right any way you look at it.

Your right “This country’s fucked up because we have fucked up people living in it.”. But as they say, a killer isn’t born, it’s made.
They aren’t bad just to begin with they were made that way. Most of the time it’s because they have experienced the negative aspects of society. All aspects of american society is run by government so it is, in part, the governments fault.
[Blak-Toothgrin] - 28 03 09 - 05:58

i fucking hate cops
but stan i hate to see your point
and blak i agree coal is not clean its (SOOTY)
ken () - 28 03 09 - 07:31

Not necessarily. What about the children who grow up without parents because the Daddy runs off with some other woman and can’t keep his dick in his pants, or because they’re both crack addicts, or because they’re too lazy to work? People tend to use the term society too vaguely, and they imply that it’s society’s fault when in actuality it’s more bad parenting than anything else.

I’m telling you, when you deal with this shit all day it sets you off. You become angry. You HATE these people because it’s because of them that society is messed up.

I think the problem with anarchism is that there are so many stupid people on this planet it could never work. I’d either end up dead or in some sort of prison for killing somebody out of rage.

It stems from selfish-ness. No matter what anyone says about the scarcity and abundance factor, and how if everyone had everything then we’d all be happy, that’s completely untrue. You see it in kids, you see it in the animal kingdom. Just because you have everything you want, doesn’t mean you don’t want the other person’s.

And who’s to say a killer isn’t born that way? I have lived in a privileged society all my life, full of anything I ever wanted, yet I long to kill and thus joined the Army. Am I sick? Is it human nature? I think so. Animals kill each other every day, animals have systems of hierarchy within their packs, and animals are out for their own survival. To think that we are different from animals at heart is ignorant.
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 07:37

I think everybody is miserable to the point where they have to blame someone (it’s human nature to hate/blame someone for your own misfortunes!), so why not point it to the government?

Past all of these conspiracy theories, I think many of the people in the government are trying to do the right thing. It’s not always easy to lead people, and there are often more critics than those trying to help.

Have any of you ever held a position of power? Have you ever had to make decisions that would immediately affect people’s lives? Have you ever been in charge of people? it’s a whole nother world when you step into the shoes of a leader and try to get things done. It’s impossible to meet the needs of everyone, but you do the best you can. It’s also much easier to play critic than it is to do what it is these people are doing.

I think the majority on here are miserable in their lives and are trying to find a scapegoat for their problems. Hey, let’s blame government! Let’s make change! And then who will administer this change and uphold it? Will you take the lead? What happens if you fail, are YOU corrupt then and only looking out for yourself?

I’m starting to think my father was right. Live the best life you can, and forget about others, because in the end it’s a lost cause. People each have their own agenda, and it’s impossible to tend to them in your lifetime (savor friends and family).

-Stan
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 07:41

i Really liked the picture its my background
and even though people have their own agendas
i think a common goal can be pulled off
i believe there is hope
ken () - 28 03 09 - 07:45

Belief in hope from what experience? Mankind has been at war with itself since it began. Do you have any experience working with people, especially those who have problems and must be taken care of?

Do you have ANY experience in an agency, service branch, or any other type of government job?

You believe in hope, yet more than likely don’t believe in god (since for some reason a lot of anarchists don’t). There you contradict yourself, because your hope is wishing for something that can never be, and you have no experience in. Yet you down god like those who believe are some sort of idiot. How ironic.
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 07:59

Maybe it’s just not supposed to be perfect.
I really don’t know
[Blak-Toothgrin] - 28 03 09 - 08:30

STAN ARHH!!!!!!!!!!!
who ever said this was about religion I
*drinks * ( dont worry im not drunk)
ok here we go
sometime things dont fall in perfectly So WHAT!!! any change we can make will bring it closer to a perfect society
the more chaos
the more desire for the perfect community
EX when crimes happen the police step it up a notch
If I lets say I decide to take an action others will follow
Just look at al the school shootings Lol laughs
social change happens with action
THERE IS HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please excuse the abstractness of my mind (its true though)
ken () - 28 03 09 - 09:29

This is what America gets for being a conspirator towards capitalism
http://anarchistcrafts.blogspot.com/
Dhani (URL) - 28 03 09 - 16:12

There’s a big difference in having faith in a non-provable entity to bring about your desired outcome, opposed to having faith in yourself. Believing in such an entity makes you feel helpless in the physical world and it’s designed to. On the other hand, knowing you have the power to create and destruct is empowering and something you can put rational faith in based on the thousands of precedents set in history of men changing the system by vocalizing revolutionary thought or simply changing it with brute force.
Luke - 28 03 09 - 16:39

go luke

smiles
ken () - 28 03 09 - 17:56

Isn’t mankind set on “thousands of precedents that have been changing the system by vocalizing revolutionary thought or changing it with brute force”? Isn’t hope in mankind based on how we are viewing our world today?

Hope in mankind has been more proven than the non-existence of God to be un-savable. Mankind has proved itself throughout history to not be able to work together. At least with God you can’t prove he doesn’t exist.

Mankind has no hope. Having faith in yourself and having it in other people who are more stupid than you could ever imagine are two totally different things.

- Stan
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 18:59

Stan go elsewhere

You sheep
ken () - 28 03 09 - 19:11

And you cheer on luke as if you’re having some sort of orgasm while watching sports like the rest of the mindless drones in this country. Cheering him on? Honestly? Are we not mature and intelligent enough to be able to form our own opinions on what others have said, without hearing the background music of someone’s support by “smiling”?

- Stan
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 19:12

You’ve used the word sheep numerous times in your last few posts. Run out of things to say?

I’m currently serving my country. I know the inner-workings of the system. Would you not benefit from me helping your cause?

Do you understand what you are willing to throw away? I am willing to help, just not violently and in stupid events that have no meaning because they will harm innocent people.

-Stan
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 19:13

Maybe I Am
i dont like that fact
Peaceful Is A good way to do it
But How many people could be influenced this way i dont know?
what im really interested in anarchy is fighting capatalism
many people are paid to protect capatalism and i dont like that
A charity cookout to support freedom from capatalism is what i would like to try convince them to find other ways to live that wont support greed
and i dont mean to insult you im sure your a nice person
I Want Action Now Thats All and if i have to kill i will
ken () - 28 03 09 - 19:22

Just make sure you know who you’re killing and what you’re killing for. You could also live in a country that doesn’t respect your right to free speech, and would cut off your head for speaking out against the government.

But that would be worse than America? Capitalism is what sparks innovation. It rewards those who work hard. Get a job, make some uber money, and dedicate yourself to funding homeless and hungry charities to people who need it. You’ll do more if you have more money than protesting in a riot that won’t solve anything but make matters worse in the short term.

If you’re going to fight, WIN. Don’t just pussy foot around and make them take a step back and get stronger. Because the next time you want to have a rally it won’t even start before they’re up on you.

-Stan
Stan () - 28 03 09 - 19:42

And at least I’m not like a lot of my peers, ken, who would use your ip address and hunt you down like the dog fuck you are. I have more humility than that. Just be careful who you talk to online, as computers are VERY easy to trace.

If you want security, run through a proxy and a network of dedicated servers across the web to remain anonymous, and for god sakes don’t fucking post your email address that you normally use.

-Stan
Stan - 28 03 09 - 20:06

Oh yes, and ken??? You’re an artist, are you? I don’t see anything up on deviantArt. Are you too busy playing Gaia?
I can find out anything I want about you mother fucker. Try me.

-Stan
Stan - 28 03 09 - 20:07

are you serious why would you do that?
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:40

oh yeah i draw sometimes
i dont have a scanner so
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:41

and i wont post email so there
i get the point
ken - 28 03 09 - 20:46

piggy devil rules
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:48

I dont play gaia anymore that game is g a y
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:49

and why the helll would you stalk me

find something better to do
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:50

maybe ill flood spam
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:50

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ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:51

eat that bitch and if you stalk me ill kill you
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:52

ill toast you with my homemade flamethrower

i learned how on instructables
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:52

Shut the fuck up you little cunt. You call me a faggot when I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE. Shall I shout your name on the forums, as well as your address and phone number? God damn, fucking insane.

-Stan
Stan - 28 03 09 - 20:53

really check it out its cool
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:53

.........i would like to apoligize for my childish anger tantrum

i just dont understand people sometimes
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:53

there i spammed seeee
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:53

I would kill you before you even knew I was coming. Now shut the fuck up before you get yourself hut, and stop acting like a child.

And you think YOU are mature enough to kill! HAHAHAHA. Why don’t you join the Army and find out :D

-Stan
Stan - 28 03 09 - 20:54

lols a little to amped in teh army are we???

hahahahahahaha

chill army man

i would only kill you
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:55

it isnt like id buttt rape you liek your dad did
ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:56

i mean holy shit chill i know you were abused and all but get some help
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im giggling so much taht i sound like a faggot
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ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:57

I’m done with this forum. The only intelligent shit I’ve come across is A.O.C., but I’m sorry, this is a lost cause. You have people like ken who want to aid in your cause? You’d let him run loose?

I’ll go raise money and fight the system on my own front.

ken, you have no idea who you are fucking with. You’re lucky I’m so nice as to not want mommy and daddy to know what happened to their little boy when he gets his jaw blown off and is not killed, but left there to suffer. It’s times like this when shutting your mouth would be most appropriate, before the fucking “baby killer” inside me comes out (God I fucking hate when people call us that. We’re over there on contract, like we have a say in the matter).

-Stan
Stan - 28 03 09 - 20:58

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ken () - 28 03 09 - 20:59

Even when someone threatens you you don’t stop? Wait till I get back from Iraq mother fucker.
Stan - 28 03 09 - 21:00

actually ive made an ass of myself i would like to apoligze to every one

just had a little too much fun didnt I

SORRY FOR BEING AN ASS
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:00

I REALLY MEAN THAT
AND I HOPE YOUR DAD WAS NICE TO YOU
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:01

AND NO IM NOT AFRAID
IF YOU DID COPS WOULD KNOW

AND I AM AN ASS SO I MIGHT JUST BE RUN OVER ANYWAY

THE OTEHR DAY I ALMOST GOT HIT BY A CAR ON MY BIKE
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:02

I CRIED BECAUSE IT WAS FUNNY

i was like holy shit

i use to play chicken with moving things when i was younger

yep those were the days
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:03

so dont be all made at me ill die soon any way

hahahahha

atleast i hope to make something important happen
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:04

i still would love to cook fpor the masses
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:04

and when you said mother fucker i wouldnt thats gross

why did you say that?
ken () - 28 03 09 - 21:06

im a flaming gay
stan () - 28 03 09 - 21:22

thats why i said it
stan - 28 03 09 - 21:22

honestly im done with this site

im gonna go be the aingsty emo i am and leave anarchy to others
and sorry stan that im an ass for you have put a great effort forward for inprovement in our society
ken - 28 03 09 - 21:31

thankyou
ken - 28 03 09 - 21:31

ken, I would appreciate it if you did not treat this forum as a childish playground. If you are here to learn then stay.
A.O.C. - 28 03 09 - 22:53

I have mixed feelings on this one. I dispise the idea of borders and nations so the introduction to cooperation around the globe never makes me unhappy. However, I also despise the idea of centralized governments and the bigger they are the worse so that disturbes me a bit. Though I do think the less governments we have to take down the better, but then again one large government could also get a bit too powerful. Its a hell of a circle jerk and I am having a hard time figuring out if I am apathetic or aggrivated. Nationalistic movements and systems make me feel ill but so do powerfull governments.
A.C. Joker () (URL) - 29 03 09 - 01:53

Please don’t leave this site because of one guy, Stan.
ken quit spamming these boards, i left this site and there were 40 comments on here, couple hours later and there’s 80.

People, do you even remember what this post is about?
[Blak-Toothgrin] - 29 03 09 - 04:20

for anarchy
steven - 29 03 09 - 06:50

Yes, I too hope stan overcomes this and choses to remain. Now, as for what actually matters here. A single world curency is, infatct, something I would support. On one condition. Gold. It has to be coins made of metals, primarily gold and silver. This system of currency can not have any government backing, and the maximum markings minted onto the coins would be the weight of the coin itself. Sorry to any americans who disagree, but this weight should only be in grams.
C.C - 29 03 09 - 07:08

Stan have you heard of a thing called the COINTERLPRO ?? did you know your country used the same tactics that the Soviet Union used to silence their opposition ?? Stand have u read A People’s History Of The United States By Howard Zinn ?? in the US alone there is no opposition in the party system like there is in the UK or France the US got a ONE PARTY SYSTEM because liberalism is centrist and conservatism is center right so there is no real opposition there is no real democracy or freedom of political ideas the US is a genuine OLIGARCHY
Menace - 29 03 09 - 07:57

and Stan why the wealth goes around the black community in the US and not in it ?? why there is an economical blockade on most black communities ??
Menace - 29 03 09 - 08:01

I wouldn’t support gold coins, i’m more of a barterer.
Because gold is just about as worthless as money, it’s only valuable because people like shiny things.
It’s just a big hunk of worthless shiny metal.
Blak-Toothgrin - 29 03 09 - 10:12

Uh … wtf is going on here? I’m out of the loop for a couple weeks and now we have death threats? Unbelievable.
GAWD - 29 03 09 - 14:47

wow ken you are a moron, spamming forums?? what purpose does that serve? As for the one world currency, not sure how I feel about that. In some ways it is good in other ways this could be really bad for us all.
wushuq92 - 29 03 09 - 17:57

Menace, I agree. The system has been set up tilted to the right.

Also, stan do not let a child ruin your time here on the forums.

I swear I hate capitalism, many providing for a few. There is always someone getting fucked. It doesn’t have to be this way.
A.O.C. - 30 03 09 - 03:14

i’ve been searching for some opinions.

even in spite of capitalism, i believe that society will stratify itself. what is the incentive that ensures that all ‘the work’ gets done, without wage labor – ie, someone getting f*****.

right now i’m benefitting from the internet. the parts that hardwire the internet were probly made by wage labor. this is just a poor example, there are all kinds – ie, i have a house and it is warm. i have a bank to keep my ‘money’ in, which is then lent out to the big boys to leverage all kinds of atrocities against mankind. how many of you guys don’t have bank accounts??? judging by the rally photo for the last thread, it looks like lots of syndicalists, in fact, have bank accounts, rather than shoeboxes under their bed. yeah, give someone your money so they can ‘hold onto it for you’. good idea assholes! and then people wonder why we are oppressed by the iron fist of capitalism. that is why the banks are so powerful, because we give them the power! put your money in a credit union. only problem is, once the credit union gets enough assets, they will also become a power broker bank!

ha, we reap what we sow. i wonder how can we let society stratify itself, without resorting to primativism. some people want to do lots of work, others none. without making value judgments on whether some people are lazy and others super go getters, how can we provide incentive to have the people truly do as they will, where everyone benefits?
ummichas () - 30 03 09 - 21:17

Hey dudes, conficker C (a computer worm) goes off tomorrow.
Download the removal tool here for those who use windows.
http://www.enigmasoftware.com/

Linux, mac, and freeBSD operating systems are not targeted.

Just thought i would warn everybody, and no it’s not an april fools joke.
There’s a quarter of a million bounty on the guy who made the worm.
read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker_C

And A.O.C maybe you should post this on the front of the site
Blak-Toothgrin - 31 03 09 - 05:43

UM: good point ummichas!

BTG: I will look into it.

Reporters: CNN, ABC, BBC, London Times, London Paper, Stop Flooding me with emails, The post on the G20 was passed on information.
A.O.C. - 31 03 09 - 12:10

Blak-Toothgrin : ty so much for the link to that download, i was relatively sure that my computer was clean, due to a firewall, IP anonymizer, anti-spyware/virus, and an entire computer on my home network set up as a firewall. But none the less this program helped alleviate some of my concerns. Well good luck to you all hope no one here is infected, if you are worse comes to worse you have to reformat your HDs with a new OS.
wushuq92 - 31 03 09 - 17:31

get ubuntu linux 8.10 (intrepid ibex)
I’m using it and i love it.
it’s safer, looks better, more secure, it’s compatible, and just all around better than mac or windows.
And it’s completely free! And there’s like 2 known viruses for it (there’s millions for windows)literally.
Blak-Toothgrin - 31 03 09 - 18:34

I have windows 7 on one partition and Fedora 11 beta on the other partition. One reason that linux distros have less known viruses is do to the fact that very few computers have them installed. What is the point of creating a virus that only has a chance of infecting around
wushuq92 - 31 03 09 - 18:56

It’s a lot tougher for a virus to thrive on a linux system as well.

Conficker C is kind of going to be like the AIDS virus for a windows system.
It stops automatic windows updates, adware-spyware remover, proxies, firewall, all that.
Its different from most viruses because it actually stops all ways to remove it.

I’m kind of curious to see how this whole thing turns out.
Blak-Toothgrin - 01 04 09 - 06:53

well looks like I was safe. nothing happened here
wushuq92 - 01 04 09 - 12:15

LOL, it just got launched!
It’s not gonna stop on the first day. In fact it’s not going to stop until most of all infected computers get it removed, ,
other wise it’ll just keep spreading.
Blak-Toothgrin - 01 04 09 - 13:24

This is what did it for me. I am so appalled that this is even thought of. Once the internet is gone, we have nothing left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5RQrxkGg..

I don’t think the government is in on this because congressmen have been denying these types of regulation, but who knows, someday it might get passed and the internet will be another TV Station.

If the internet goes there is going to be some major problems with organizing efforts to go against corporate america and the government, since they will be able to view exactly what we are doing.

Is there any other way of communicating with the people?

-Stan
Stan - 01 04 09 - 14:19

Well if the phone lines are accessible, the internet will always be,
Because they can restrict WiFi easily, but not so with the phone lines.

If they try to restrict web browsers from visiting websites there are alternatives like TELNET and putty.
If they try to seize servers people can run telnet servers off their own computers for people to connect to.
me myself i used to telnet to sites all the time, you can talk to people, play games, download files, and read textfiles.
what you connect to through telnet are things called bulletin board system (bbs’s) they were the things that people used in the
80’s before mainstream internet.
try this:
If you use windows search for the “command prompt” in the command prompt copy and paste this in it and press enter:

telnet bbs.goldengate.net

if you actually want to use the bbs your gonna have to sign in –

We can also use mail. Zines, newsletters, and whatnot to mail to each other. Thats right, nothing like using good ol’ paper.
Blak-Toothgrin - 01 04 09 - 16:15

Yes but with TelNet we still have to go through the network in order to find the host’s computer. We don’t necessarily have to use their servers to be tracked, because they could scan all outgoing packets through the network.

I also heard TelNet is horribly insecure, with no encryption. Is this true?

There’s got to be a wireless signal or something we could broadcast, but even that can be cracked, and much easier since its accessible to anyone capable of catching a signal.

-Stan
Stan - 01 04 09 - 17:34

glad to see you back stan, you brought up some great points and it’s been making me think
i am taking society next semester and will be doing a project on anarchy. if anyone has any input it would be greatly appreciated as this is an excellent chance for people at my school to see anarchy in a different way.
Boipuso () - 01 04 09 - 17:42

stan-
Well, you have a point stan, i was thinking about dial up bbs’s not telnet bbs’s, because you connect directly with dial up bbs’s.
Your dial up bbs’s just use phone lines, it’s like making a phone call.

Yes TELNET is insecure, no encryption. There are ssh and putty which is basically the same thing, but a lot more secure.
There’s a such thing as voice conferencing, where a lot of people call one phone number and have conversations.
And I’ll think of more later.

Boipuso-
Read the anarchist FAQ, and there are some videos on youtube that are helpful, just type anarchy in the search box.
Blak-toothgrin - 01 04 09 - 18:45

somethings wrong with the g-20 post.
And those g-20 protests were on the daily show
Blak-Toothgrin - 03 04 09 - 11:14

I pressed enter stupid mac, anyway, i was reading one of stan’s posts earlier about capitalism and the U.S. being such a great country and such.
1. People don’t leave the united states when they hate it because it doesn’t change the fact the system continues to exist. By leaving people are giving up on changing it, and by staying they can atleast spread a word of anarchy. As one of the developed countries we have an obligation to assume exemplar for developing countries. Now, if every developing country adopts American economics there would be no resources left for anyone, as an example
2. I’m an air traffic controller in air force, so i can relate with you a little bit by being involved in the military. It’s a ton of bull shit. i’m not sure how the marines or army works, but they regulate every aspect of our lives from not being able to smoke a cig and walk to cutting hair to precise specifications (as if that has anything to do with combat effectiveness) From what i know of the military, the only thing you can learn about the government from this perspective is that it is full of useless politics and bureaucracy. It’s a limp dick in a disappointed orgy.
Oh, as far as capitalism sparking innovation and rewarding those who work hard, you should take up gardening. I can assure you that you won’t find a tree with benjamin’s on the boughs at Stein’s, but watching it grow is enough reward, just as a professor who cares for their students enjoys watching them learn to ask the right questions. The point is, we don’t need materialism to feel rewarded for our efforts.
Anyway, as for this article, i’m just going to name drop giving everyone the opportunity to educate themselves.
ahh hem.
Zapatistas
Naomi Klein
Ted Kaczynski
Sacco and Vanzetti
NAFTA
WTO
and various other anti-globalization anti-neo-liberal literature that anti-stems from those anti-categories
and yes, i feel very clever.
kradicle () - 05 04 09 - 00:41

ill agree, just one step closer to a glober government.
i think we’re just fucked. its too late to turn around and
repair. the shit storm hasnt actually begun yet, but we
are moments away from the end. mankind is just growing
into one big festering parasite. sad really, we’ll be the cause
of our own extinction.

pisses me off, i swear.
47 - 06 04 09 - 04:39

Sorry stan
im young and a fucking idiot
I came here because i am what they call under the poverty line and well i dont think their should be a need for money. its just paper. and to think others work so hard for it they steal it some rob and kill for it
we all hurt each other for green paper Me ive been looking for a job 22 applications and i still am unemployed
just for paper if everyone had what they needed no one would have to starve or want or steal
were humans not animals
MONEY IS PRIMITIVE
ken - 10 04 09 - 17:38

yes it truly is ken
- 10 04 09 - 23:07

on the subject of “clean coal” (snicker, wtf were they thinking when they named it that) another the reason why no american politicians really made the leap to switch to green energy is because their office term isn’t long enough for them to reap the benefits because it’s going to take longer than 4 years and they see oil as a get rich quick and leave the mess for the next poor slob in office.
bloody echo - 14 04 09 - 18:56

oh yeah stan if your on i really am sorry for being a dumb asss

i hope to learn the most i can here i want change in this world

im willing to help someone tell me how to inform others please!
ken - 18 04 09 - 19:45

just want to say thay i stumbled on to this site and want to say thank you for the breath of fresh air and open and frethought. i realy like blaktooth grin(pantera ref.) and the death threat stuf, crazy!! but i dig it. its free.
daniel () - 22 04 09 - 06:11

also , speaking of one world curencies, i saw the utube post of the amero, the americas version of the euro.that was scary! its coming because the chinese have purchased them
daniel () - 22 04 09 - 06:16

Hey Daniel, we have the same name!
and my alias is actually a megadeth ref. but you were close.

My thoughts on the amero is that america is going bankrupt, so if they just start over again they wouldn’t have as much debt or inflation.
Blak-Toothgrin - 22 04 09 - 09:02

Ahhh sweating bullets. i remember it well. i was thinking pantera because of tjhe drink name(they named a mixed drink) black tooth grin. ok. first btg,awe also agree that clean coal is laughable at best.not only becauses its an oxymoron but because its a hoax. carbon offsets are just a way for the rich to keep polluting now they can do it and feel better about themselves. who gets the money for carbon credits? not the trees or rivers. second, a friend asked me about what to stock up on in case of another "crissis" i told him ammo. it will be the only way to protect our self in the event order cannot be restored.chaos is coming and its waving a big red lag.
[madirishguy] - 22 04 09 - 10:17

I give America like 10 years at most, 3 years least.
Blak-Toothgrin - 22 04 09 - 16:47

wow you are “a glas half full “kinda guy. 5 years tops no matter what. the bush/obama clusterfuck will tear this country apart.i dont know why folks thought barrak was the second coming?he and mc cain had more in common then they realizied!! i really think people were so eager to get rid of “the great satan” thatanyone would do!
madirishguy () - 22 04 09 - 18:48

I’ll make you a bet, 20 bucks (lol, get it?)
I hope this country falls, i really do. One step closer to peace.
Blak-Toothgrin - 22 04 09 - 19:49

im not sure that i do get it? i really hope we both are wrong!im not anarchist, im a patriot. a very sad one. this country used to be worth fighting for. my entire family has served in the army and marines. i chose music to make a change in this country.the problem is laziness.we dont work for things the way we used to. we are al used to instant this or on demand that. the obama administration is a joke.he is not the second coming.thank you all here on this site for the open forum to express free thought.and i welcome any coments and emails.
madirishguy () - 23 04 09 - 05:09

The joke was that when the federal government falls, money will be worthless.
The country was never worth fighting for, America was always corrupt, it always will be.
I’m not saying the people in the army are bad, they think they’re fighting for freedom, but they’re really fighting for corporations to be able to make more money.

America is the main cause for most of the problems we have today, injustice, corruption, famine, and disease. They have the ability and man power to stop all of it but they don’t because they would lose money.

I hope America falls because the rest of the world would be free of them, they wouldn’t have anymore power over us, then they would have to work for their food and clothing like we all would have to.
Blak-Toothgrin - 23 04 09 - 19:28

if it goes down then yeah fuck yeah we should all go shit on the white house!

should i be taking any action (violence maybe?)
smiles - 24 04 09 - 22:06

before you go shiting on anything, just remember that your only afforded the right to think speak and talk freely because of where you were born. no mater how you feel or what you think is wrong with this country. dont forget that! some one died or bleed for that right! no mater how twisted things have gotten. as americans its our job to give the gov. a big fat midle finger but if i saw you taking a shit on the white house lawn, id shoot your ass dead. same as anyone who wants to burn flags. theres no point and its disrspectful to those that serve us in the most unselfish capacity! so yes there neds to be change..in a huge way! just dont dis my country. ya dig?
madirishguy () - 26 04 09 - 12:53

I’m with Blak-Toothgrin, I support the barter system. Paper money was worthless before the gold standard was removed. And on the Amero, it’s negative for everybody. For the Americans, it means that your economy will be owned by the Chinese. For Canadians like myself (go ahead and laugh, I can’t hear you), it’s shit. I admit that I don’t know much about economics, but if I believe what little I can understand, Canada has one of the most stable economies in the world, despite have such close economic ties to America. The Amero will help only the rich and powerful, who don’t need it, although you can be sure that when it becomes known, it will be pitched as the best thing to happen to North America since democracy. And Ken, I’m also young, I also came here to learn, but I’ve managed to control myself. You’re representing young anarchists, do us some justice.
[Jezebel] - 26 04 09 - 13:00

madirishguy, i love the people in the army. My mother and my brother where in the army because they had it in their head that they were doing something for the people, thats why i like them. But the truth is, is that they work for large corporations like oil companies. Please let go of your patriotic beliefs, you put your faith in money grabbers and capitalist’s.

Jezebel, i love Canadians, they’re so mellow and non-judgmental.
Blak-Toothgrin - 26 04 09 - 15:23

do you really think im that gullible?i know whats going on now! its a farce! id shot on sight anyone who does the pooping!im very aware that g. washington doesnt live there anymore. one more thing dont tel me what i need to do, i am a grown man and can make my own choices.as an activist have you tried to abolish the electoral college?form your own party or even beter become a police watchdog in your city like in l.a.?it sounds to me like you just report the news and and make your opinoin known. i dont have a problem with that, just dont tell me what to do! and mr. canada. close of your borders even though your country is stable you dont look all that atractive.
madirishguy () - 26 04 09 - 18:23

close off our borders?!? ha! that god damn NAFTA agreement has our shit going south in perpetuity!
ummichas () - 26 04 09 - 19:10

Mr Canada? And as far as I can see, an economy that isn’t falling flat on its ass makes any country look attractive. As Blak-Toothgrin has shown, people seem to like Canadians, even if they don’t like Canada.
[Jezebel] - 26 04 09 - 22:59

Dude calm down, i wasn’t telling you to do anything.
Blak-Toothgrin - 27 04 09 - 06:38

have any of you been on the site called info wars? a good friend was showing me more disturbing news and we put 2 and 2 together.first it brought up a good point about accidental “live “flu virus being shipped by a pharmacutical co.(which could never pas through customs)and a u tube of about 50,000 plastic coffins on the tarmac in atlanta(c.d.c.) also there was mention of the endgame post on utube .put it all together and we got ill.this is sickening ,also the article in time explaining the accident and trying to garner sympathy for the drug comp. its just too coincidental dontcha think? also we both concluded the gov. will try to vaccinate us like they did during the polio epidemic.more scary shit from unbiased media i thought u need to check out. kater
madirishguy () - 29 04 09 - 17:19

whoa! sounds a little extreme.
Blak-Toothgrin - 29 04 09 - 18:29

it sounds extreme but this has been in development for six months(since the caskets)also i just learned of the fema camps in every state. fema has extraordinary powers for a b.s. office. i know it sounds like some x files drama but do the research and tell me im wrong!later.
madirishguy () - 30 04 09 - 05:23

Well, i don’t doubt you, definitely something fishy going on.

Can you give me the links to those articles?
Blak-Toothgrin - 30 04 09 - 08:32

i cant cuz i do my internet on my cell.but the infowar front page has that info. search u tube for endgame,google the caskets.its as mulder would say…out there
madirishguy () - 01 05 09 - 06:00

Alright, thanks.
Blak-Toothgrin - 01 05 09 - 12:33

I stopped reading after everyone told ken to stop spamming, so I’m unsure as to whether or not Stan began providing more intelligent responses, but I’d like to come into Ken’s defense considering that he was being provoked and threatened by Stan. Not to justify immaturity, but you ought to see why he responded in the way he did.
That being said, I’d like to point out that Stan contradicted himself numerous times, and I’m surprised that there wasn’t much opposition to the points he made. First of all, his defense of police brutality was absolutely ridiculous. To believe that defenseless human beings deserve to be beaten in all circumstances is outrageously ignorant. He justifies their actions by stating that the “criminal” was wrong in opposing the cop in the first place, claiming that one deserves punishment if they are going to oppose someone in uniform. Why should we be forced to live in fear in the first place?I’d recommend watching the documentary about the WTO protests in seattle in 1999. If you know anything about the WTO, then you’d understand the vitality of that protest, and I can not see how one could possibly justify the police brutality in that film. He then tells anyone not supporting America to “get the fuck out”. What about those of us who wish to bring about social change? How the hell are we going to make a difference by ignoring the problem? He has obviously never experienced living in poverty, according to himself to say the least- and he is a fabulous example of the mindless sheep that he ridicules. Sure, we American’s are granted a lifestyle better than those in other countries, but at who’s expense? Their’s! And some of your points are some of the stupidest arguments I’ve ever heard- like the one about bad parenting? Bad parenting is a PART of society! And let me also say that yes, I do believe that humans are just like animals, we ARE animals, but animals don’t kill out of spite or hatred, or for the desire for world domination. Animals kill for survival, for food, for self-defense, and that is all. Stan, let me ask you, what do you know about the WTO? The IMF? The World Bank? GATTs? Biopiracy? Gaia theory? Ecological footprint? Were you aware that the American military has 761 military bases around the world? What do you know about oppression? What makes oppression possible? The police force… What do you know about peak oil, climate change, pollution, clearcutting… What do you know about privitization? Globalization? And most of all, what do you know about propaganda, about ignorance? I could go on and on. If you’d like to oppose me, I suggest looking into every one of the above stated first, and if for some reason you still have an argument, only after you stop being ignorant will I listen to what you have to say.
Green (A) - 11 05 09 - 15:11

i have tried to make the same points on stan before. stan is completely unaware and most of his commentary is rooted in the brainwash he has submitted himself too. if he reads this he will likely mount a strange defense.
ummichas () - 12 05 09 - 19:32

those are great points! please let me add 1 thing ,the u.n.! they are more then responsible for a lot of the oppression around the world ,with us troops as peace keepers no less! as u mentioned before about the imf and wto, u forgot fema!they are the new ss or kgb.to much power not enough oversight. hey GRIN mised ya while i was taking my finals this quarter
madirishguy () - 20 05 09 - 20:45

Hey dude. FEMA is pretty big around here in Louisiana. You should see it they have big ass camps, even though FEMA tried to take all of the trailers back, there are still a lot of camps here. You can ride through them at night and see all the drugs and violence. The camps have turned into ghettos now.

Hey A.O.C, a new edgy article would probably kick start this community again
Blak-Toothgrin - 21 05 09 - 21:39

ive ben doing some poking around on INFOWars website and i kep getting drawn into the idea that fema wil be seting up concentration camps. in the post abo ve this the felow mentioned that fema is prety big, im sure that this isnt too far freom a whole lot of truth!if the drugs and rampent crime are taking place in front of the authorities it only stands to reason that a doped up and stoned population is easier toi control then a sober one. another fact in the artical pointed out that these campos are in the midle of nowhere and no one sems to notice them.my fear is when the fema (and the government)oficials decide we (free people , society ect.) ned to be whisked away in the midle of the night with a black bag over our heads and no explanation to our loved ones. its like looking bak 70 years and reliving the jewish ghettos , being rounded up like cattle and being gassed. oh! i almost forgot. imcalling the federal reserve to ask abvout the amero and where i can get them. hey grin! aoc!
madirishguy () - 10 06 09 - 10:29

In those FEMA camps they used to have a couple patrol cars here and there, but it’s like they don’t even care anymore. They have security guards there but they don’t search anyone, DRUGS STILL GET IN!

Take for example: My mom was driving into the camps, guards stopped us, my sister was riding along (she lived there at the time) she had to hide in the cargo area along with my 8 year old nephew because they didn’t have ID. The guard looked them straight in the eye, NOTHING HAPPENED! No search, no nothing, didn’t even say anything about it!

My sister’s boyfriend lived there as well, he sold pot right out of the camper!
So yeah i think you have a point.

The camps are also either out of town or hidden from view.
Blak-Toothgrin - 10 06 09 - 18:19

We need to communicate. social connecting is key to empowerment of the human race, so that we may rise above the sheeple.

By the way, fema never did care, that’s why it’s abandoned? It is practicaly right?
fema is just a platform they use to begin chipping us. Or preparing us to be chipped!!!!!!!!!!!!
Refuse, fight, resist!
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