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I didn’t know you would add this one.
Overall i think it’s actually pretty good, but a few things need tweaking.

If you want to make flyers out of this one you need to enlarge “STOP AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!” at the top of the article to 28.
Blak-Toothgrin - 02 03 09 - 01:24

Careful, Blacktooth. This is sedition.
Also, the meager list of crimes you put forth hardly hints at the breadth and scale of this nation’s crimes. Perhaps it might be better, in lieu of trying to list specific crimes, to list out the institutions and doctrinal systems which allow for these crimes to be whitewashed and forgotten. Given the stated message of this website, I would think it also important to mention that the capitalist system with its many atrocities is not exclusive to the United States, or her people, or her government.
Remember, comrades, Anarchism is, broadly speaking, a humanist movement, and therefore is necessarily opposed to nationalistic thinking, or rather, is necessarily above it.
Hale - 02 03 09 - 10:06

thanks for the input hale.
Maybe we should take out the “meager list of crimes” from the article.
Be specific of what to edit in the article and maybe A.O.C could edit it or something.
Blak-Toothgrin - 02 03 09 - 11:13

and as for sedition, they don’t have anything against us.
Everything is based upon fact and it states in the constitution itself that “if government becomes to powerful it is your job to overthrow it”.
So not only is it this not sedition, but it would be treason for me NOT to say it, and act on it.

And that being said, almost every united states citizen who supports current government is a guilty of treason.

:)
Blak-Toothgrin - 02 03 09 - 11:21

Submedia.tv is were I get some of my news
BlackBird - 02 03 09 - 16:24

Inspired by the many posts on this blog, I’m just wondering if anyone knows of any websites where I can print out some posters/flyers to tape up around school.

Kids are so liberal that they’re ideas are counter-productive to society’s fixes. It’s difficult to explain, but it’s annoying. I want to educate the masses.

I can make my own, but I’d love to save some time and just print a ton out.

Thanks guys.

-Pax
Pax () - 03 03 09 - 16:38

Crimethinc.com has pamphlets and magazines you can print out
BlackBird - 03 03 09 - 16:41

You know, I feel like fliers with such strong language will not be incredibly successful. Not that we shouldn’t try because I know informing a few is better than none.

Before I came to my current ideas about anarchism and the like, I liked to think I was open minded but if someone handed me a flier like this I probably would have laughed and moved on. What really opened me up to real change was a friendship I made a couple of years ago. It took him a couple of years to fully convince me but what had the most effect on me was the novel ‘Ishmael’ by Daniel Quinn. He introduced me to ‘Ishmael’ and I believe that book at least cracked the surface and my friend then pried apart the wall I had up. I know that zeitgeist and fliers like these are easier to spread but maybe we could look into spreading the word about ‘Ishmael’ as well. It’s a lot easier to swallow for the average American. I try to offer my copy to as many friends as possible.

I normally just lurk around this site but I wanted to throw that out there.
[Amanda] () - 03 03 09 - 20:43

well i can’t do this alone you know, there needs to be more than one person writing articles.
there needs to be more than one person doing this stuff, it’s just me right now.
Blak-Toothgrin - 03 03 09 - 22:25

BTG it is not easy getting the ball rolling on these things. You have to network in order to make a greater impact.
A.O.C. - 04 03 09 - 00:57

I know.

A.O.C, In the article, is there anyway you can take out the list of crimes at the top of the article?
It was a last minute thought to throw those in there, and i didn’t know that it wouldn’t match with
how the rest of the article was written.

Lets just say I’m a much better planner than i am a writer.
Blak-Toothgrin - 04 03 09 - 03:50

okay so I can not post new articles here so I wanted to post it here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/792370..

Thou Shalt Not Text…
What a load of crap this is
wushuq92 - 04 03 09 - 12:09

LOL, GIVING IT UP FOR LENT!
Funny… Nice one dude.
Blak-Toothgrin - 04 03 09 - 12:58

Thank you, lol I figured many of us would find this comical. If you read the article the pope gives a
“...warning to the young not to substitute “virtual friendship” for real human relationships.”
wushuq92 - 04 03 09 - 17:09

removed them sir.
A.O.C. - 05 03 09 - 10:10

Thank you sir.

P.S: I found out something new today, dudh soda.
50% milk 50% coca cola.
I know it has nothing to do at all with the subject but my god it’s delicious.
You will thank me.
Blak-Toothgrin - 05 03 09 - 10:46

lol.
A.O.C. - 05 03 09 - 16:54

It really is awesome just don’t drink like 3 cups everyday since it can form calcium deposits in your stomach
And thats no lie.

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Blak-Toothgrin - 06 03 09 - 04:51

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Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 06 03 09 - 15:00

HAHA, whats are TRue anarchist again?
[ummichas] - 06 03 09 - 18:03

Who knows.
Blak-Toothgrin - 07 03 09 - 11:26

for me the only false anarchists are the anarcho – “capitalists “ maybe i am dumb but i don’t understand them i simply don’t LOL :D
Menace - 07 03 09 - 13:25

So I printed out a ton of posters and posted them all over the school. I followed the rules and put them in the spots I was allowed to. The next morning, kids throughout were reading them and talking about them. My first period is history class. My teacher came in with one in his hand (it was the one that said not to enlist into the army) and he started ranting on about how dumb it was. He totally skewed the real message the poster was trying to portray. He said “This is saying that if no one joins the army, then the war will end. It’s completely false blah blah blah”

By the end of the day every poster I had put up was removed. They don’t know I put them up, but next time there will be many more. I already have some friends willing to help post them up too.

this may not be the most effective way to rally people together, but it works.

Peace!
Pax () - 07 03 09 - 14:30

The torch of anarchistic thought passing from hand to hand, sheding its light over the masses and opening the eyes of the malcontent.

Menace- ditto + anarcho primitivists

Wars will not stop because the government would enstate a draft. Also those who defy will be imprisoned by tyrants in power.
A.O.C. - 07 03 09 - 17:27

-Pax
Don’t post up flyers in your school. Hand them out to students who are independent thinkers, so that type of thing doesn’t happen to you again. It’s easier to discuss things like that with people who think for themselves.
Thank you for getting involved.
Blak-Toothgrin - 07 03 09 - 18:27

problem with what ive encountered is that i show ppl things like zeitgeist, and they belive it, but then they just treat it as something that there aware of now, there never outraged or have a passion to do something about it
[nick] () - 12 03 09 - 16:17

same problem with me dude
Blak-Toothgrin - 12 03 09 - 21:23

fuckin ppl are to worried about there own pitiful problems, to give some time to do something that would help everyone, even themselves
[nick] () - 12 03 09 - 22:21

i have just recently started an orginazition called the a.l.f. or american libertion front and i am trying to get rid of the american government i need help to organize and plan out a war against corruption and all political systems. sedition or not we need to stand up for our rights. iam only 15 years old and today in school i was told by the adminastrators i didnt have any rights. i believe that every man, woman and child has the right to do what they want.but the american government has crossed the line and any one who wishes to help the a.l.f. contact me at my email address and we will stop corruption!
jon norton () - 17 03 09 - 14:47

Did you even think of a plan to do so?
you know, stop corruption
Blak-Toothgrin - 17 03 09 - 16:08

actually yes i do have a plan elimante the corrupted government and the corrupted officals we need a massive uprising we need to fight with guns in our hands march to the white house and wage war against the american government but my plan isnt exactly foolproof but that is why i need input from other anarchists i only have a few comrades in my area and am trying to recruit more people we need to spread the word of revolution to everyone wether or not they wish to fight both are a few who as i said in another post that me and my comrades are willing to die to further the revolution and the anarchist movement
jon norton () - 18 03 09 - 14:00

b 4 u star even thinknig of getting rid of the government , u need to get ALOT more ppl on our side
so we shouldnt be talking about getting rid of the government
the topic of conversation should be how do we get more ppl on our side
[nick] () - 19 03 09 - 14:56

i would like to state that first as couragous as it is to fight the government i would like to suggest other choices
if you read anarchist outreach and watch that long movie you will understand there is other ways to defeat the government
try boycotting powerful businesses and try using non pollution energy sources
honeslty though i support any anarchy just make sure your plans are effective
ken drake () - 20 03 09 - 22:27

boycott things make flyers and inform others of this site and reducate them so they know how full of lies this system is
someday im going to get solar panels so i dont serve the governments electricity greed
maybe someday ill use force if needed i say ANARCHY!!!!!!!
ken drake () - 20 03 09 - 22:31

in reference to boycotting the news stations
we went to Canada a few years back and something struck me when we would listen to the news they actually talked about what was going on in the rest of the world. The news networks in America shelter us so much from all the horrible things going on in this world. the only time we hear anything about the rest of the world its because we are at war with them, or we are in some sort of dispute with them. our society has become so wrapped up in itself that the news networks and government don’t want us to know about anything bad going on in the rest of the world. The government is more concerned with looking pretty than actually letting its citizens know all the pain and suffering it is ignoring.
katie harrison (URL) - 22 03 09 - 15:18

thats so true about the news in america they dont tell you whats going in other parts of the world. and how are we supposed to get more people on our side if they are all ignorant to alternatives to the government or even anarchy you should know what most people think anarchists they all think were criminals and terrorists just because we stand up for what we beleive in ANARCHY!!!
jon () - 22 03 09 - 21:27

yep anarchy can be peacefull they (the oil gets mad) when you use solar sell your car get a solar panel
for christs sakes find away you all know the world is gonna end in inflation
thinking about toasting local pd building with home made flamethrower
ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ken drake () - 26 03 09 - 15:42

“The military is NOT an honorable institution”

And you wonder why many see you as selfish children rebeling against society cause mommy and daddy didn’t love you enough. its laughable how naive you people are to think everyone and everything is out to get you. the military is the reason you can sit in your coffee shop typin away this b.s. without fear of a suicide bomber walkin in to ruin your $6 mocha choka, but then you’ll still blame the MAN for the violence cause you can’t see two inches passed your laptop to know their is REAL evil out there, (not our military or government), but religious wackos who want to bomb us back to the 8th century. whats more entertaining is when that islamic nut walks into that coffee shop and sees you in your Anarchist tshirt he still won’t dicipher you from any of the other freedom loving person there, he’ll gladly blow you up and you’ll be standing at the gates of heaven dumbfounded askin why (“but I thought we were on the same team”)
why don’t you guys get a job raise a family and grow old so you can look back someday and laugh at how stupid and hypocritical you lived
Jason - 02 04 09 - 15:50

jason do you know anything at all about anarchy? the military is most certainly not an honarable institution they military now fights over oil and money. doesnt any one think that is retarded many young men and women are dying not for our freedom but for our oppression. so jason what would you do if a suicide bomber walked into your coffee shop and sat right next to you he wont decipher you as anything but insignificant
jon () - 02 04 09 - 20:20

they are not fighting for oil they are fighting because they believe they can make a change

in the ned we will keep taking though

thats what americans do

hates capatalism
- 10 04 09 - 23:05

There is nothing honorable about any institution that puts weapons in the hands of young men, gives them uniforms, drills them into conformity, and then sends them into civilian areas with the idea that they are both right and in power. The military is central to the degradation of the human species and the cause of unthinkable suffering. As long as militaries exist they will continue to spread abuse, rape, torture, and humiliation. These things are inevitable.

The idea that we owe the military anything for these thugish tasks is bullshit. As long as young men are willing to kill people for decisions they had no part in making they will continue to spread sadism and misery across the globe. What do they fight for? Most of them don’t really know (which is obvious if you listen to their answers) but that’s not the point. As long as the lower class is willing to kill people for decisions it has no say in we are fucked (well not us, but the little brown people americans, literally, piss on.
Jimmy - 11 04 09 - 20:02

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CherryDanish - 17 04 09 - 18:32

I agree with everything posted here, except for the military not being an honorary institution. The military, although ill used, is not the issue, it is the user. without a military, i believe that we would end State Hood all togehter in the US, but we would just be thrust into another state hood when some other nation seizes the oppurtunity to take a defensless nation. Argue all you want with me, but true Anarchy is unachievable, we must fight for the cyclical nature of governments. Governments will always arise from the state of nature, it is human nature to want guidence, as Anarchist we should be the vanguardists who change it every so often and allow a more just institution to take its place. Besides, we can attain more of our goals using our positive freedoms, at this point, rather than not. One can do far more damage within the system than from without it. The radar is not somewhere we want to be.
QuietRev - 07 05 09 - 15:13

Also, sedition? You call yourselves anarchist but are afraid of commiting sedition? This is why activisim fails.
QuietRev - 07 05 09 - 15:15

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