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22 02 09 - 11:06

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The recent thread got me thinking of ways that we embark upon successful anarchist outreach? Indeed, what does anarchist outreach even mean?

Anarchist outreach should be the arm of the movement that is entirely devoted to extending the message and increasing the general public's awareness of anarchism. This is only one form of anarchist action, the others being the dueling twins of "liberal" style social action and more militant insurrection activities. While these two things have a goal to bring about a revolution, no revolution is complete w/out a complementary CONVERSION of the hearts and minds of the people. Now surely "liberal" style social action and militant insurrection represent the ideals of anarchism and aid in this conversion by deeds, but neither of them are "outreach" in the sense of drawing people into the intellectual fold of anarchism, where conversions occur. This becomes clear when we see anarchist actions blend w/the actions of other groups (from hippie peace protests to community garden projects to rioting inner city black youth). As such, when anarchism is in the public eye it's going to be associated w/activities that the vast majority of people are going to find fruity (at best) or dangerous (at worst); in addition, anarchism tends t get drowned out. This is where anarchist outreach steps in. Anarchist outreach is nothing more and nothing less than anarchist propaganda, and it absolute MUST accompany, in a VERY visible way, the other forms of actions. As such, anarchist outreach must seek to be constantly crafting public opinion even when it's not accompanying the other forms of action. And, as w/"liberal" style social actions and insurrection actions, when the time comes, EVERY anarchist is responsible for outreach as well. The thing about outreach though is that the time for it is ... all the time: everyone we talk to is a target for our propaganda, and yes, I do believe that we should be active propaganda mouthpieces and that this is something wholly different than works/deeds based activism.

Now, how does this play out?

Well, we have a wide variety of media at our disposal: web, print, radio, tv, and movies. For a wide array of reasons, the latter three are very difficult to break into, though that's not say they shouldn't be seen as impenetrable media. Print can be hit and miss: it's time consuming to operate, is pretty expensive if you want to be taken seriously, etc ... . So, I'll talk about the medium we're currently engaged on: the web.

The web has many advantages: easy to use, cheap, accessible, etc ... . It also has many disadvantages which become readily apparent if you've ever tried to generate hits for a website.

When we're talking about web anarchist outreach, this site (and others like it: infoshop, crimethinc, submedia.tv, etc ...) is only a small piece of the puzzle ... indeed, it's the endpoint of what should be a far broader and more insidious outreach program.

I'm going to give a brief rundown on how I've come to supplement my other outreach activities, which occur in my classes and other f2f occasions, with a healthy presence on the web.

1. Web communities: there are an almost infinite amount of communities on the web that have absolutely jack squat to do w/anarchism ... and that's a good thing. Why? B/c by engaging people in these environments you can catch them w/their guards down vis-a-vis anarchism. Every anarchist should be an ACTIVE member of as many of these communities as they have the time for. I'm active in 2 communities (one for boardgames and one for a sports team). It's best to narrow down your participation to a number of communities that you can maintain an ACTIVE presence on.

2. Types of web communities: Try to find communities based upon other things you're interested in ... you want to be in non-political web communities. In doing so, you're already building common ground w/your audience by your shared interests. It's important to maintain a presence based on this shared interest at all times.

3. Building your persona: You shouldn't ever just be an anarchist. You want to be a fully fledged and commonly known member of the community ... like in Cheers where everybody says your name when you walk through the doors. In other words, be yourself in every aspect ... in the process, you will make friends, who will serve as your support whether they're anarchists themselves or not.

4. Anarchist outreach: Once, you've become a working member of the community either find the forums dedicated to Off Topic discussions or specifically political discussions. It is very important that you don't enter these discussions wearing your anarchism on your sleeve ... treat these OT discussions (and especially forums) as terra nova and assume that everyone there is hostile to anarchism. You want to engage in these discussions w/out bringing up anarchism or citing anarchist thinkers, so just talk politics like everyone else. Use sources they're familiar with. Take sides (you'd be surprised who'd you'd be allied with sometimes). Over time, you should be trying to become an oddball on the forum, someone people have a hard time pinning down. To those who think this might be difficult b/c anarchism is solidly on The Left, consider how it easy it is to take the side of a conservative in a discussion about the bailout/stimulus (screw the feds ... get them out of our business: rah, rah, sis, boom, bah). Essentially you're trying to plant seeds in the minds of the rest of the community that anarchism is not irrational & dangerous, but it does provide alternative ways of looking at things. In general, these seeds cannot be planted if you "come out" as an anarchist.

5. Coming out: By being a sane and likeable member of the community, you've already done a heaping amount of outreach, but this doesn't do anarchism any good if people don't know you're anarchist. At some point you're going to have to "come out" ... you're going to have to reveal yourself as an anarchist. This is extremely tricky, b/c if you do it wrong or too soon, you can kill the goodwill you've created. Did I mention that people that don't like "anarchy?" So, every time you think you've found an opportunity to "come out" ... don't. Put it off ... put it off until you literally can't take it anymore. The more time between your initial participation and the "coming out" the better. Now, as a long as you've been yourself the entire time (short of coming out and saying you're an anarchist) and have been genuine w/your posts, "coming out" won't be seen as some sort of big trick or an elaborate ruse. It'll just be seen as an "oh that makes sense, now I know why he's been so hard to pin down, but hmmm ... wait a second, he's not a unabomber freak ... interesting." After you've "come out" keep on keeping on as you've been doing, but now you can also begin to introduce anarchism as such ... always slowly and carefully, you'll probably be the face of anarchism in that web community represent us well.

The overarching goal of anarchist outreach is to normalize anarchism on an intellectual level.

For an example of how this works, I'll use my participation in an online board game community (yes, I'm a gamer dork ... shove it! :) ).

The following link is for a discussion I started regarding the worker expropriations in Argentina:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/378676

The next thread is the first thread I started about Anarchism itself ... it garnered a huge audience and a ton of very quick activity, which indicated 2 things to me: that people are looking, starving for something different in politics & society AND that I had a LOT still to learn about how to negotiate my presence in the community.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/352857/page/1

This is the thread where I "came out:"

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/352546

And this is the thread that finally pushed me to "come out" in the first place ... the idea that people wouldn't let their kids play w/my kids just b/c we were anarchists was really troubling:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/352324

Anarchist action doesn't have to be big to communicate ideas. Anarchist action doesn't have to be "practical demonstrations" to communicate ideas. Anarchist action can be as small and impractical as a strategic conversation over the water cooler or in a thread on a random web community. The opportunity for outreach is all around us, and we must constantly be looking to seize those opportunities.

--GAWD
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Everyone, make a youtube account!

They have alot of confused (not your regular) type kids that could be easily persuaded.
And they also have many intelligent older guys that would probably agree with a lot of what
we are talking about. you can post up information on your own little channel, you can make
video’s, talk to people, and send them messages.

And if you want to start getting people organized and start getting people passing out flyers and taking an active roll
in anarchy, get in touch with the administrators of hackthissite.org and hackbloc.org to put up a message on the front of their site supporting the movement.

I think they would be up for it! seeing how they are activist’s as well.

Also i think we should still be thinking about getting a good flyer or mission statement set up before we start all this.
Blak-Toothgrin - 22 02 09 - 14:02

wow, lots of great info. Alot to take in. However, exellent points.

What about group meetings in your local community of friends? Just to discuss politics and get the ball rollin
Ammo - 22 02 09 - 17:49

gawd, i like this:’ Anarchist action can be as small and impractical as a strategic conversation over the water cooler or in a thread on a random web community’. i also appreciate the word ‘negotiate’ as a method of integration of these ideals. acceptance occurs as we find the most effective ways to transfer the perception of freedom from person to person. the barometer obviously is the acceptance.

– ‘anarchy, saving people from themselves, one devotee at a time.’ people need to feel free in order to think free.
[ummichas] - 22 02 09 - 18:24

i already have a youtube account whit videos explaining anarchist ideals and and i always manage Unions in my city and we always create meetings and invite of all different ideas and debate on them our philosophy i understand the whole internet thing i myself connected whit people that i know organize such things but first we need to be strong enough so we can invite others
Menace - 22 02 09 - 18:33

ohh and i proudly converted many anarchists in the hip hop website that i manage maybe Erik told you already A.O.C http://www.realhiphopforever.com has close ties whit anarchism and we always try to teach kids whats up
Menace - 22 02 09 - 18:37

This is exactly what is needed-Education on a broad scale. I can see how a little social engineering can seriously start peoples minds breaking up the cobwebs and get things rolling again. There are some excellent ideas listed and I think with a bit of thought there can be quite a few more ideas found. I’ve actually been thinking about turning some of my articles into videos, as it seems the average person is not very keen on reading much these days. In any case I believe that an "Anarchist Outreach" is an important step in the right direction. If there is anything that is lacking in today’s society it is provoking thoughts-ones strong enough to get you out of your chair and speaking up, or at least seeking a brighter future. I remember finding out the truth about many things for the first time, and how I wanted to change the world-still do.

Let’s not let this turn into one of those things that starts strong and ends when interests subsides. Been there, done that, and gotten nowhere. I may be new around here, but I am not new to the ideas presented, and I have seen small movements become global ones in the past, and I believe that this is needed step to achieve that. To show that the anarchists they so love to hate are the ones fighting for the very rights they "believe" they already have.

Sorry, got a bit carried away there-Writing is my thing, so once I get started it’s hard to stop!
JesterDev (URL) - 22 02 09 - 22:29

Like it was mentioned in the article. . . we need to use what the people believe in order to pull them over.
If you agree with a single issue with the person you are trying to convert then you have common ground. Something to work off on.
Ammo - 22 02 09 - 23:00

I agree Ammo but i noticed something an Anarchist is never MADE an anarchist is born when i was little i had that anti-authoritarian seed in me and that seed blossomed when it was touched by anarchist ideals i mean apolitical people that are anti-authoritarian are more easily to be converted then apolitical people who are not i saw that anti-authoritarianism is not so political then it sounds so that we must touch in people
Menace - 23 02 09 - 08:58

Reflecting on what you are saying Menace, I am reminded of the importance of an open mind. Finding someone with one is not always easy, so in our interactions with others, let us not seem too thick-brained on a single point. This is not going to attract anyone to even come to an understanding of our message.
[Vader] - 23 02 09 - 15:07

If no one has the money to either flypost or hand out copies of eye opening vids, one could always make a self commitment to expose at least 5 people personally to anarchism. Educating them on the subject and pointing them in the right directions to sources of information. With the failing economy in the states it should be easy for people to be open their minds to new ideals concidering that the old ideals are failing.
A.O.C. - 23 02 09 - 16:11

we still need to think of a good article or something people can print and throw around the web.
i’ve thought of one but like i said we ALL need to think of one and decide on the best or combine them.
and after we have this article, A.O.C try and get in touch with the administrators of hackthissite.org and hackbloc.org and school-survival.net to put up the article on the front of their site and tell people to print it. All of us get a youtube account and paste it around there. the cool thing about youtube is you can get other people to start pasting it around the web. me myself will make it my duty to post it around my town. this article should have links to anarchy.net and other anarchist sites.

we need to start now, get the well know’s of this site to make an article
Blak-Toothgrin - 23 02 09 - 18:22

AOC. personally, i have tried to expose many people to anarchy, but they are very… reluctant to be interested as their idea of anarchy is chaos and all hell breaks loose. they are just ‘good’ high school kids who don’t want to change.
Boipuso () - 23 02 09 - 18:33

target adults. Changing an adults perspective may be more difficult but at least they will have a better grasp on what it is that you are trying to convey and why. high school kids think they know it all already,“oh god I sound like my parents“lol. It is true though, as a youth I was a young punk rocker preaching anarchy, read a few books, etc. If i knew then what i knew now, things would have been alot different. Adults understand what it is like to loose a job, loose a home, especialy with the economy here in the states. Youth will do it because it cool or rebellious, I know, that was myself. It was not until I reached my early 20s that I fully understood the true meaning of anarchy. I have nothing against youthfull anarchists at all, but adults would be able to see your perspective from a broader spectrum.
A.O.C. - 23 02 09 - 20:44

values are acquired, doctrine/dogma is imposed. i think this should be the meter by which we engage in outreach. by that logic anarchy happens, the way it is supposed to; anarchists are born so to speak. youth just want to be free, if i remember correctly, from an early age. preventative measures intercept the treatment completely. give the full continuum of our species its due. intercept the youth. prevent the indoctrinations. children learn faster than any other age category, and with the most passive effort. it is not brainwashing, it is the acquisition of knowledge for utility sake; usefulness, mechanical functioning in order to succeed with the group. as the intro said, no revolution is possible w/o a concomitant change of hearts and minds. there just aren’t yet enough ‘born again’ humans to raise up this pure generation, yet. by and large, adults lack the awareness to appreciate the broader perspective, and so live as devotees to their chosen bigotry. truly, the revolution is moot when the hearts and minds have already changed… so a dependent relationship is unnecessary. the adult needs to feel free, whereas the child is born free. it is useless to say to my 5 yo, ‘son, you are – in reality – free, it is your potential to do as you will’, he already knows that, his will is kinetic. all adults see children as being free, and generally long for that – and that gets expressed as regret for the tragedies of the past.
the inherent flaws of being exposed to reality, i guess. gawds method will work b/c it is simple. it is the trickle down method, the kind of shit that makes people think right before they go to sleep. and dream about the freedom of tomorrow, or potential freedom anyways. to bring adults back to moderation is almost a lost cause. born, and not made. don’t worry everyone, not that it isn’t worth it, it is just a high energy endeavor. i believe that parents/adults would be far more labile if the youth were free. and then it would be even less effort to convert the grown folk, as they typically try to live vicariously thru the youth. i model outreach after evolution, the most effective, dependable force we have; change. as a group, we are determined by our contribution to the future. i believe the youth must be made to believe in themselves, so they dont cast their potential into the shite hole of the readily available bullshit stories out there.
[ummichas] - 23 02 09 - 22:41

lets quit talking about it and just do something already
Blak-Toothgrin - 23 02 09 - 23:10

go ahead btg, start the article then! criminy, i can’t just paste A’s all over the place. what kind of approach do you want to take to get people to take you really seriously?
[ummichas] - 23 02 09 - 23:31

Please advise: how are you going to convince freedom virgins to shun their controllers. i don’t know if posting something on other anarchy websites is going to be really effective. also, without waving our flagrant A flag, how are we going to effectively advertise this thing.

i don’t really agree with this, i’m just being playful.
[ummichas] - 23 02 09 - 23:47

Those with strong linguistic skills should contact local colleges and ask to participate in an open discussion about anarchism with the class. I am sure that liberal political science teachers would not mind.
A.O.C. - 23 02 09 - 23:58

I have an article, but i want others to make one as well. I’ve seen the “passing out articles” approach work before.

Maybe we shouldn’t preach out right anarchy, we should make people start doubting the
government and start thinking for themselves. It’s a really good idea, i just need more people to back it up.
Blak-toothgrin - 24 02 09 - 00:15

i got tons of articles here tell me what topic do you want and i will post it
Menace - 24 02 09 - 07:48

why don’t you post the over-arching concepts that you’ve written about, then the rest of the posters, if interested, can write their own version based on those salient points, and perhaps some interesting consensus can occur.
[ummichas] - 24 02 09 - 07:52

i agree whit Blak-toothgrin people will relate more to economical and social alternatives to what we have now rather then speak out strictly on the point of what is ANARCHY i don’t do that when i talk whit people i explain people my alternatives to the current state of things and then point from which category this alternatives are part this easily reduces the shock that people have when you tell them “ Let Me Tell You About Anarchism” or “ What is Anarchy” and such.

ummichas – Yes tell me where to post them and i will
Menace - 24 02 09 - 09:37

We need a really compelling article, one that speaks out on the war, famine, and poverty that the united states has inflicted on other countries. Also mention the abuse of power on the American people them selves, talk about how the schools are failing and how the american government steals money. Talk about how the mass media tries and tries to keep people afraid and stupid just to feed this horrid economy.

just don’t make stuff up, we would be as bad as them if we did that.
Right, well after a good rest i will be able to tackle this myself!
Research time!

P.S: I just don’t want this whole thing to be another failed attempt at warning the people,
that’s why i got so weird about it.
Blak-toothgrin - 24 02 09 - 14:15

Blak American imperialism is a universal thing so its easy and for the US stealing money we must write about the capitalist scheme and the federal reserve and about the media well for there i personally won’t write nothing i would rather burn a disc whit Manufacturing Consent By Chomksy or hand out the book i mean it gives much more detail on the propaganda model of the media who already wants to see the documentary movie for it check this link : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=..
Menace - 24 02 09 - 15:26

i think people are generally too involved with their personal bs to care capitalist schemes reserves etc. i think btg said it right – i think that we should be contributing to the literature in a unique way, rather than recycling others contributions.
[ummichas] - 24 02 09 - 19:00

there is no literature in a unique way you put your unique way to what somebody else wrote we are not philosophers to create a new set of ideas we just accommodate them to our age and what the common folk cares about then ?? not the economy ?? not alternatives to the current system ?? man people need FOOD people NEED JOBS people need better standard living i bet your philosophical bullshit won’t worth a dime in my country you think everyone on the planet is a pseudo-intellectual like you?? that explores the deep conscious of the mind?? no man a common factory worker that works 11 hours a day don’t have time for that crap ?? i don’t know where the funk are you living but here people want answers and solutions not philosophical analysis
Menace - 24 02 09 - 19:26

there is an excellent movie that we can reccomend to others, my guess is that you have mostly all seen it. it is about the christian religion and the bush administration. it is a bit late considereing obama is in power now, but i still think it has credible points and it can make people wake up and realize that there is a chance that obama could do the same thing or things that are similar.
the movie is called Zeitgeist. you can watch the full thing on youtube
Boipuso () - 24 02 09 - 20:10

man, i don’t even think i have it in me to bash my head against the wall with this kind of stuff. go ahead, apply the past to the present, see how accomodating it is. kind of like using bible stories to live our lives today. methods go extinct b/c they do not serve THE PEOPLE anymore. hence new ideas. and you’re absolutely right, nothing i can say, or do, can save ‘your country’; if they want freedom, they will choose it, it is my hope they do. and yes, everyone on the planet is an unrealized pseudo intellectual. that is our potential (not the pseudo part), our challenge that we must meet, otherwise education is pointless. and that’s the dilemma – outreach. if people NEED JOBS, there are capitalists out there that will capitalize on that desperation. outreach, not whether factory workers have time to engage in an ‘intellectual’ dialogue.
[ummichas] - 24 02 09 - 20:53

Get the material together, email it to me and I will push it. I can talk to some friends over at flag blackened to help.
A.O.C. - 25 02 09 - 00:07

some people mentioned telling people about zeitgeist, well…

Seeing how i’m a skeptic, i had to look deeper into zeitgeist and
Maybe we shouldn’t include zeitgeist at all in our
informing the people thing.
Because i’m not trying to make people atheist or conspirators. I’m just trying to get people to be free. To do what they feel.

And i have mixed feelings about zeitgeist, just a little iffy about the facts in it.

So to give you both sides of the case and to let you make up your own mind.

here is the original zeitgeist movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67Go..

here is some stuff debunking zeitgeist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqKmAL_xo..
http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-..

There is a video out there on youtube that backs up the zeitgeist.
ZEITGEIST, Part 1" Debunked? Acharya Responds

I don’t know, i just don’t think we should trust everything on the web, and there are some people here who swear by it, but haven’t looked at both sides of the case, and i just wouldn’t want to include something in our "inform the people" thing that is two faced.

I want hard facts, stuff that we don’t have to be iffy about.
Blak-toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 06:19

ummichas you are a selfish egoist dude who runs is mouth all day and doing shit for no one that’s what you so called individualist anarchists do you people adopt “lifestylism” at the expense of class struggle. and NO man maybe in your middle class community people are all esoteric and philosophical like you and i don’t know why i call you an anarchist cause you are just an anti-authoritarian and nothing else you talk about mutual aid concepts coming from people like Kropotkin and Proudhon but you are a “individualist” anarchist LOL ain’t that hypocritical of you ?? you are nothing but a loud mouth man.

and Zeitgeist Addendum is good to present to people i mean the documentary stinks of Libertarianism all over it :D and as i said tell me concrete what do you want and i will work on it
Menace - 25 02 09 - 07:38

very good movie, very exposing.

thanks menace
Blak-toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 09:11

I think you should take some facts from that movie and work it into an article along with facts from “bowling for columbine” which you can probably find on youtube.

Try and make people angry at government, I’m sure exposing people to whats really going on is gonna make them shit.

At the end of the article, put up some links to where people can watch both movies. Also put up a link for anarchy.net and other sites you see that have importance.

Keep it short to one or two pages (because most people detest reading).

Hope I’m not being demanding or anything, just making considerations.
Blak-toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 09:27

Artist- produce personal anti authoritarian art, or start anti ads (propaganda against the media and corporations)
Writers- Write blogs, chat, flyers, and write books!
Speakers- perform speeches, hold community discusions, join debates
Musicians- make anarchist music

There is something for everyone to do. It just always boils down to the lack of people we have out there doing it.
Ammo - 25 02 09 - 09:30

good call Blak toothgrin
i really should look at those thanks for the links
Boipuso () - 25 02 09 - 09:52

ok Blak i will follow those ideas and i will start making one as for bowling for columbine i don’t see how it can help me i saw it already and personally i detest liberal propaganda liberalism its in the same pot whit conservatism don’t fall for that BS they trying to tell you liberalism is a marketing ploy not an honest well-considered belief
Menace - 25 02 09 - 10:23

and you are just a sad, angry activist. it’s not even worth recounting your contradictions, i find it strange that you need to do so for any perceived contradictions. i’m glad that a few of you guys are well read, but at the same time, it’s a low blow to list off a few authors, and then say that someone fits that box, like when i said ‘new age marxist’, that kind of shit doesn’t really make sense. i just think that activists are scared of a moderate individualist. remember, individualist – ‘favoring freedom of action over collective or state control’. i don’t know why you get so angry about that. and lose the egoist line too, your pursuing your self interest as much as anyone else. i find it amusing that you are so involved in your class struggle, that you even have to create a class struggle between us. its so pathetic.
[ummichas] - 25 02 09 - 12:00

sounds like a reasonable approach btg, but i guess i’m not allowed to contribute, b/c i’m a bad anarchist. HAHAHA.
[ummichas] - 25 02 09 - 12:03

your kind is counter productive to any anarchist movement and society that’s why nobody took individualist anarchism serious individualist anarchism contradicts itself individualist anarchism is inconsistent anarchism individualist anarchism is a form of elitism Basch’s criticism of Stirner and individualist anarchism is correct and the proof is the individualist anarchist himself and yes your are an egoist it is in your tradition be to a egoist nobody created a class struggle between us you showed that you don’t give a shit about class struggle and i would be glad to see where i contradict myself and notice that i didn’t start this you always criticize everyone but you don’t bring nothing concrete to the table you derive and create a separate world of yours dude wake the fuck up to reality man I’m done whit you you are to much of a buzz killer LOL
Menace - 25 02 09 - 12:42

Well the reason why i mentioned bowling for columbine (even though it stinks of libertarianism, as you so put it).
Is because it still holds some very good points. like for instance all the innocent people the american government kills because…. well for no reason basically.

And how the mass media scares people shitless so they’ll go running to government to save them from their fears. So that america will look like the good guy.

So my reason is justified.

ummichas you do hold a good point. “how are you going to convince freedom virgins to shun their controllers”.
They would rather be blind, helpless, and lied to BUT FEEL COMFORTABLE instead of hearing the truth.
But that in time can be changed, seeing how i was a full blown patriot at one time, but i think most of us were
when we were kids, but that changed because we had an open mind and we were able to see what was going on
unlike others. The facts are right there, we just need to make them think with an open mind.

menace and ummichas, quit it, arguing isn’t helping much. Soon this post is going to be filled with comments from both of you saying how bad the other one is, so stop.
Blak-Toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 17:34

LOL Blak you misunderstood i said bowling for columbine is a LIBERAL movie and Zeitgeist Addendum is a LIBERTARIAN movie its a difference between a LIBERTARIAN ( i myself being one and almost all anarchist are in that category) and a Liberal i know they are similar words but they have different meanings LOL
Menace - 25 02 09 - 17:54

yeah, sorry.
Blak-toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 18:23

menace, since you’re free to make your choice, you can be right. but i prefer to keep a clear, open dialogue. evolution happens when the best ideas rise to the top; it’s strange that you wouldn’t think the same way. in the same vein, i believe in the transition towards anarchism, rather than the immediate plunge into it. i think that people are afraid of the latter, only. the public at large, i believe, tends to believe that taking the plunge is scary, as btg attests. this is not about your feelings or mine, this is about everyone elses, and how they feel about being free, and making that commitment to freedom as an individual, so that they can then share that commitment, and truly bring it to their community.

i find btg’s effort quite useful. everyone come up with something, instead of staunchly defending their own. the idea is to get individuals to think with an open mind. i also think that btg is right, arguing is like tits on a bull.

btg, would it be useful to comment on peoples fear, and perhaps how we have come to experience an open mind? because we can’t just replace bigotry with more bigotry, saying that we’re better off (being free – our ideas are better than yours) and such? i’ve just found that when i suggest around freedom, people say ‘i’m free, what are you talking about?’, and my value judgement – if i’m so entitled – is that they are not.
[ummichas] - 25 02 09 - 19:42

I didn’t expect my post to trigger an extended discussion … I guess I’m flattered. But seriously … stop the damned infighting! It’s one thing to have disagreements about things; it’s quite another go on like some of you do. Kiss and make up already!

Some quick (and probably half-baked) replies:
1. Boipuso: IMHO ... You should be devoting EVERY single ounce of effort to YOUR education. Instead of talking to your friends about anarchism … read & learn. Instead of talking to us about it … read & learn. That should be everything for you right now. And, while I’d love to see you build a little anarchist cell in your school … far more important is to make sure that at least ONE of you leaves school on a trajectory to become a real life-long anarchist—make sure that person is you. Then, in college & beyond … as you learn more and can take more responsiblity for your own actions … THEN you’ll be ready for activism.

2. On flyers, articles, etc … : like I mentioned, print media is very hit & miss. I generally think its a waste of time w/out first planting the seeds that might make someone give anarchism a closer look … yes, even if the material is generic and makes no mention of anarchism per se. BUT, if you want to go this route … go for the broadest impact possible. Write up full page ads that directly relate to current events in your area (or possibly the country) ... and try to get these into the local newspapers. I would target campus newspapers and other "independant" liberal & libertarian newspapers (cheaper & more receptive audience). For reasons which should be obvious, I don’t think it’d be wise inject anarchism, per se, into these efforts. For example, in the Fall students will be coming back to campus, signing up for clubs (there should already be an anarchist club at your local college … if there isn’t one—start it, now!), and getting bombarded w/financial offers for credit cards, bank accounts etc …: this is the perfect opportunity to take out an ad countering this capitalist assault.

3. Movies: I’ve mentioned this before … but I don’t think Zeitgeist works. Perhaps AOC can give us a post action report (some weeks removed) about how it was received, but I’m dubious. As much as possible, you should watch the films w/the people you’re targeting so that you can guide their analysis of the films (pre, during, and after viewing … as appropriate). As far as films go … start w/stuff people are already familiar with and already like (The Matrix & V for Vendetta … I’d shy away from using The Dark Knight in this way). Films like these can be given very strong anarchist readings that emphasize the importance of our ideas. Then, move on to documentaries. Documentaries give a little more factual meat to our ideas. But, you don’t want documentaries about anarchism per se (not even things that "romanticize" the struggle like Battle for Seattle); rather the documentaries, should play around the boundaries of our ideas (stuff like The Take & The Trap). Again, be sure to watch it w/the people you’re targeting so that you can help guide their analysis. The absolute last step in your own outreach project, vis-a-vis film, is to introduce films about anarchism itself. Here you’d want to go the historical route first: films about anarchists like the one about the Spanish Anarchists or the History channel presentation on Goldman. Then you want to get into films explaining anarchist ideas themselves (rather than something like Zeitgeist … try something like The Evilness of Power by Jonathan/Mr1001Nights). Needless to say, you want to talk about about this w/your targets like all the other times.

4. Speaking of Jonathan & youtube in general … we’ve already got a pretty decent presence in that medium as far as a conversation w/in our ranks. Jonathan, buddhagem, and even some of the A-C people do a nice job of offering a running conversation about anarchism (both its confrontations w/other political theories and its internal dialogues). What is sorely needed is many more anarchists partcipating in discussions about things that don’t have jack shit to do w/anarchism at all. When on the web, we can’t spend all our time talking to each other (though these conversations are certainly important) ... this is the idea I spun out in my post.

In general, as far as outreach goes … We have over 150 yrs of mistrust, apprehension, and animus to overcome vis-a-vis our ideas. This is not going to be erased overnight, but we can begin to undermine the SLANDER by building relationships w/people, and the only way to do that is to build trust in us as people and thinkers, showing them that our ideas aren’t irrational and dangerous (one step at a time … don’t throw them into the deep end of a cold swimming pool).

Personally, I suppose my goal for outreach is simple and modest … lay the groundwork for future generations of anarchists to be taken seriously. For that, I count as a success that moment of thought where someone I’ve encountered and talked to pauses to REALLY think about what those kids are doing throwing a brick through a starbucks window or blocking the highways to the party conventions.

p.s.: I think I’ll write up something about insurrection next … we’ll see. ;)
GAWD - 25 02 09 - 20:19

The whole zeitgeist addendum thing went alright. About 100 copied were handed out at Pomona college, not sure on the follow up, we just split afterwards. Some of the poli-sci teachers actually requested a copy.
A.O.C. - 25 02 09 - 20:50

“would it be useful to comment on peoples fear”
yep.
A lot of people don’t actually know they fear the government, i know that sounds weird, but when i was in school i never really realized why i wouldn’t leave, but it was because i was afraid cause of all the shit they put into my head.

A lot of people are talking about making an article but are people working on one?
we need Something that will at least get our fight known publicly. I’ve mentioned what the article should be compiled of and what it should do, so now we have all we need to make a good exposing article.

My plan is, like i stated before:
Post the article on anarchy.net for people to copy and paste around the web and around town.
Post the article on hackbloc.org, hackthissite.org, school-survival.net, and any other web site that A.O.C knows about, for people to do the same.
We all make youtube accounts, befriend everyone who agrees with our plan to make people independent from government. Have them pass out flyers around their town and pass it out around youtube to get people to realize our cause. which is to get people to be independent from government and government rule, because it is quite a horrible thing.

This is why we need this article, it’s not just one article, it’s part of a much bigger scheme.
Blak-Toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 22:20

Sorry for all the ranting, guys.
But at least I’m getting my point across
Blak-Toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 22:23

i just want to be sure to distinguish btn outreach and activism is all, the subtleties. the groundwork concept that gawd is talking about.
[ummichas] - 25 02 09 - 22:33

Menace you said you had a youtube account, What’s your username? it would be cool to get in contact with you through youtube.

A.O.C that sounds cool, we need more people to see that documentary.
HERE IS THE LINK TO WATCH THE MOVIE

zeitgeist: addendum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRy..
with youtube accounts we can throw this link all around youtube
Blak-Toothgrin - 25 02 09 - 23:28

Like I said, get it done and i will post it. These sort of things only have an effect if everyone acts and not just bullshit on the computer.
You all need to support this if you want to have an impact.
You all need to network to get the word out.
You all need to do the footwork.
You all need to give your word and commitment.
How can you all expect to cooperate in an anarchistic society if you can’t cooperate and orginize on one project.

You have my word and commitment (I love doing this shit)
A.O.C. - 25 02 09 - 23:40

You have my word and commitment as well.

This can be big if we put great effort towards it.
Every person than can that can give his commitment must.
It’s time to make people aware of the Injustices of America

Independent We Stand.
Blak-Toothgrin - 26 02 09 - 00:06

This is probably going to be really corny, but please read it with an open mind, as these people (recipients of this) are the most frightened: FACULTY MEMBERS. they run and hide in their state sanctioned hell institute, disseminating their knowledge at a tremendous cost to students. please understand that i am engaged in bond slavery, which i hope will serve my fellow people at some point.

I would like to take the time to acknowledge the recipients of this letter in a

special way. To begin, I would like to express my regret at being unable to give this

message the personality you deserve. Time continues to move irrevocably into the

past, and I think that it is particularly important to make the most of each moment we

spend together, to our mutual benefit.

I believe that value is acquired, and ‘the rest’ is imposed. I only have to look as

far as my own children to see that this is true. I am starting to fully appreciate the

enthusiasm in which a child engages their environment, vis-a-vis the learning

experience. As a child matures, guidance is required to maintain that childlike

enthusiasm, so as too foster the requisite comprehension and application of value

(in the esoteric – useful – sense of the word) that suggests ‘success’. I am happy to

report that all of our relationships have this unrealized potential!

I believe that principles, fundamentals, and the pursuit of procedural correctness

at the expense of actual needs, are hampering me in this respect. As a parent, I am

startled to realize the effect of my imposing ‘the way things should happen’ on my own

family. ‘The rest’ has an infinite potential to cause discord. It does not seem to matter

how hard we try and press someone into a mold, they somehow, at sometime, do as

they will anyway. By that rationale, our motivations become purely self interest.

There is a way to encourage the individual, and still be assured of success. It is to care

so fully for that individual, that you would not want to dilute any of that individual

quality, thus ensuring the fullness of that individual.

Believe it or not, when I am sitting in the back of a classroom I am all ears. It

might even be in the hall, the lounge, the clinic, or the lab. You may notice my furrowed

brow broadcasting, ‘this is not as easy or as fun as it should be’. Children only learn

when something is fun and engages all of their faculties to the fullest. As an aside, I

looked up the word ‘faculty’. It comes from the old french, ‘to do, or make easy’. I like

definitions, they keep us honest, for our mutual benefit.

I believe that becoming child-like allows us to endeavor towards true freedom

with one another. Once we are free with one another, it will enable us to truly become

servants to our community.

It is my hope that our relationships grow even closer in the future, that we can

both learn from, and teach each other, for our benefit as well as for those around us. I

feel that our example might even set a precedent.
[ummichas] - 26 02 09 - 01:34

Is this your article, or is it something else.
If so it’s kind of an odd approach, that may not identify with everyone, so maybe we shouldn’t use it as the main article.

I think it’s pretty cool though, and i don’t think this should just be discarded, we can find good use for it.

A lot of people here like using fancy wording,
but if we want an article to be understood by the masses we should tone down the English to about an 8th grade level. Don’t use words like furrowed, Marxism, totalitarianism, lackadaisical, foccinoccinafillapillafaction, etc.
Blak-Toothgrin - 26 02 09 - 02:45

individualist anarchists are very odd get use to it LOL :D and ummichas nobody wants to plunge into anarchy its impossible the only thing i felt from you is that you deny on a certain extent the power of class struggle and how much this power could boost our movement that’s the only thing and Blak here’s my youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/Menace3434
Menace - 26 02 09 - 08:31

haha, good call, btg. i am a student, and this my contribution towards breaking down barriers in elitist educational machine; those that hold up the ideals of the current educational system, as well as the value/cost system of providing necessary preventative health services. i will still contribute to the normalization of anarachy as well, though.
[ummichas] - 26 02 09 - 09:19

I’ll save a copy of it, maybe to pass out or something, it has a good point to it.
Blak-Toothgrin - 26 02 09 - 17:59

Any article update?
And why is it only me, menace, and ummichas, did people lose interest already?
quitters…
Blak-Toothgrin - 26 02 09 - 20:59

You have to network. When I recieve articles I will post them as they come. It takes effort to get these things moving.
A.O.C. - 27 02 09 - 00:58

I messaged one to you for consideration.
Blak-Toothgrin - 27 02 09 - 01:16

I haven’t had time to read through all of the posts, but I have noticed a similar theme. That we are all trying to achieve the same goal. So this is just a thought, and perhaps many will disagree, but that’s OK. How about starting a whole new site, or perhaps an organization dedicated towards the re-education of the people. We could guise it as something else and make it easy for people to read behind the lines. As a group dedicated to this one goal we can better work as a whole rather then randomly posted comments and getting nowhere. In essence it would be an anarchist organization and or community geared towards re-education-not focused on the ideals of various groups, but focused on the foundation.

From a single point where all our voices can be heard, we can span out from there. Offer up articles that people can print and pass around with no worries about copyrights, and I’m sure many others have loads of ideas-perhaps hosting documentaries etc…

Just my two cents. A collaboration of anarchists working together (just as we are here, which is a rare thing!) in order to achieve the goal. We have to start somewhere, and there is no better time then now.

I have posted a few articles of my own here: http://randomout.blogspot.com/ – Feel free to tare them apart, use them, post them, claim them as your own for all I care. I tried to gear them towards a more broad audience without directing them in any one direction. Well the last one is like that, the first one does mention anarchism in the quotes.
JesterDev () (URL) - 27 02 09 - 10:12

jesterdev that’s a great idea!
but running a new site would cost money and we would need to be more organized, so for now anarchy.net is a great place to start what your talking about.
Blak-toothgrin - 28 02 09 - 00:00

GAWD- i thank you for your support but it’s just so frustrating to hear people bring things up and me not say anything about it. so i do and unfortuately they use the same single minded bullshit arguments that are difficult for me to argue against since they run in circles. does anyone have any suggestions about stuff i can read about anarchy? it would be much apppeciated
Boipuso () - 28 02 09 - 15:49

boipuso i have the same problem. i cant bring it up, even if i tip toe around the subject, to anyone because most are unwilling to listen to a ‘radical’ point of view. Same old arguments that have been accepted by them without question to reason or truth. ive been having alot of trouble even to bring up any subject that goes against the social norm. and around here thats gung ho america, if your not with us your against us, if your not behind our military stand in front of them. Difficult place to talk about freethinking!
AuthorityisSlavery - 28 02 09 - 16:57

Boipuso … infoshop’s anarchism faq is pretty comprehensive. Here’s the link:

http://infoshop.org/faq/index.html

Start here, then follow the references they provide to get into the source material.

One of the main problems I think anarchists (young and old) run in to is that they themselves haven’t really broken away from their old ways of thinking and the old arguments. It’s almost as if, most anarchists know they’re right in their hearts, but their heads still find the counter arguments convincing on some level, hence the frustration (heart pulls one way but clouded mind pulls another). As such our own education is absolutely vital: go to infoshop.

I know it’s not easy being alone … most anarchists are alone w/in their “normal” lives. That’s okay … it’ll make you stronger. I know this too: anarchism is right and true.
GAWD - 28 02 09 - 21:09

vader, the ‘muse’ as you may know, is a concept from/since antiquity, that in my understanding allows us to take very little credit for our ‘accomplishments’. it seems to me to suggest a different type of incentive, (for outreach) a very non proprietary type of satisfaction in success, a reward system that does not seem to capitalize on someone elses misfortune. i picked this up from your belief, or lack thereof, in the self, from the last thread. i would be interested in pursuing that thought.
[ummichas] - 28 02 09 - 21:41

i think that outreach occurs when you provide folks with a different incentive. i think that most people aren’t thinking outside of the box; we can’t fight capitalism with capitalist tactics – ie, advertising. advertising is not as effective as ideas propagating on their own, by their own merit (yes, the idea has to get pushed somehow i guess) this is where my previous thought comes in. a lot of the time, the point gets lost in the message, people have a hard time identifying with their freedom. i have found that sometimes people feel like i am capitalizing on some weakness of theirs, by suggesting freedom, etc. i believe that the message will only flow if individuals can take ownership of the ideals. i think that anarchy has to be free. the inherent problem exists .i’m just having a hard time convincing poeple that they are not free.
[ummichas] - 28 02 09 - 21:42

forgot to erase the last sentence of my last post there, i guess my stuff is always too long so i have to copy and paste and change stuff, boo ;c

my take on the muse is that inspiration comes to all of us, and all outcomes from that are determined by how we seize the moment/day and run with that inspiration. and by run i mean share. the misconception is to keep our ideas private lest someone steal them and benefit from them (financially) . which is complete bullshit, and feeds the capitalism monster. how do we convince people to seize the day, run with their inspirations?
[ummichas] () - 28 02 09 - 21:52

just some thoughts on effective outreach for the people, some ideas i would like to incoroporate into my ad
[ummichas] () - 28 02 09 - 21:58

You just have to know how to bring up a subject like anarchy, or how the government
is an oppressive force.

Instead of making it seem like your at a “radical” point of view make it seem like a “disappointed american” point of view. Like start it off with something like “whats happen to this country” or “I don’t know if we’re ever gonna be able to get out of this depression”.
And once your in a conversation about a bad economy you can slowly make your point, maybe even tell them about zeitgeist addendum or anarchy.net.

It works with very good results, you have to make it seem your on the same side of the spectrum, dude.
Blak-Toothgrin - 28 02 09 - 23:08

hey good news! 15 major corporations might not make 2009!
six flags, circuit city (there was a circuit city that closed in my town :) ), muzak, and others.
Blak-Toothgrin - 01 03 09 - 04:41

Yeah i heard that.
Circuit city closed in my town too.
Ammo - 01 03 09 - 08:33

Boipuso that FAQ is good but i got hundreds of books on anarchism they all are on virtual format i got books from Bakunin to Kropotkin and to contemporary people like Bookchin and Chomsky give me an email if you want them and its stands for all people who want to read about anarchism and anarchist philosophy
Menace - 01 03 09 - 09:10

outreach…hmmm…well all of you little stalinists could start by shooting yourselves in the head. if that doesnt work (i.e. the govt. has taken all of the guns…you know so we can’t resist oppression like your icons Stalin and Hitler (although u wont admit it) did then you can just od or something.

you people fashion yourselves as heroes of the working class and champions of justice but really, all you truly wish for is to institue your own oppression on the people. i mean, since you all were the pioneers of the “new world” then you would be calling the shots right? telling us all whats right and wrong and how we should live right? and of course, in the interest of peace, you would take all of our guns right? of course you would still have yours because, well…who would keep order…right? what about all of the starving people around the world? well i gues there would be enough food for all once we stop those capitalist pigs from eating it all right? as if they consume anymore than you. well i guess all of those people will have to continue to starve, more actually because there will be no rich people to donate to charity and things like that. oh well, the world is over populated right? perhaps we could fix that with chinese (your maoist brothers) style forced abortions right?

wow, you do have all the answers huh.

you people think that by fashioning yourselves as communist you can claim to be the archenemy of fascism but in reality you are fascists of the first order. stalinists at heart…nazis in practice.

go to hell every last one of you
freedomfighter - 01 04 09 - 08:02

generally, people criticize there own shortcomings when/by judging others. it’s how we justify our own personal perceived shortcomings.

if you actually educated yourself, the logical conclusion for everyone’s best interest is in fact, anarchy. but i’ll let you find that out for yourself – i cannot convince you. otherwise you will carry on in your misery.

wow, you do have the greatest potential. i am very pleased you posted.

ps. sorry to disappoint you, but there is no hell. our responsibility is to make this life as mutually beneficial as we can.
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