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11 02 09 - 21:19

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Our comrade Stan has also sent me an update on himself and the status of Military Health Care.
Stan Wrote...

Hi A.O.C.,

In case you don't remember me, my name is Stan, and I am the soldier who emailed you back in early January about how ridiculous the Army is and how I want to 'get out' more than anything in the world. I thought I would update you on another piece of the pie that is supposed to be a great reason to join the service: free health care. LOL!

Here's the low down of the GREAT Army medical care:

1) IF they allow you to get treated (ie. take time out of your 'busy' schedule to see a doctor, because everything we do in garrison is so important - HA!) they treat you like a smuck, coward, and weakling because you are requesting medical attention. (More or less 'suck it up')
2) The usual treatment is done by the outward look of the patient, and not a diagnosis of the problem. You 'look' ok, so just get some rest, stop being a bitch, and 'drink water'.
3) If you really do have a problem, it takes MONTHS to get anything done (surgery wise), and often weeks to months health wise. Don't forget, everything here is done by Army doctors and not civilians. When you are treated by a civilian doctor in the real world you have the privilege of knowing that he/she has gone to med school and earned their reputation to be a registered doctor. Not in the Army. A year of brief and unsupportive general health training, followed by another brief school of specific training towards their field is all these people get. Imagine getting surgery on an ankle or knee, in which you would want the best care possible. Actually, don't imagine that, because the inexperience of the person performing surgery on you will scare you.
4) When and if you are allowed to get your problem or illness treated by your superiors, the bureaucratic and completely in-efficient system that the Army uses to handle patients will put you at the long end of a waiting list that takes ages to work through. (You think there would be a system for the severity of the problem at hand, but the way the Army does things is at their convenience, so someone with a broken leg will be put on the waiting list for two months out, after someone who needs something significantly less, like a consultation who will get it at the end of the week. There is no order and no sense whatsoever. From experience, having a broken leg has taken me MONTHS to get it treated because of the constant loops I've been thrown in that I have to sort out myself, with no help from the medical staff).
5) Don't get me started on Army Dentists.
6) The Army will NOT take care of you if you have gotten injured, and more than likely you will not receive any disibility or beneficial pay after your discharge, should anything happen to you. I would provide a source here, but just look up any anti-war group or in particular 'AVAW' (Army Vets Against the War) and you will see a list of people who received little to no medical care for their amputations or paralysis caused by a pointless war.

More to come. Generally when you are young and looking for opportunity, don't look twice at the Army. The benefits they wave in front of your face are little more than exaggerated lies. The 'top notch' medical care that they advertise should be called 'third world health care', or rather, 'third world health care if and when you are able to receive it, based on the convenience of those in charge of you, who have no medical knowledge whatsoever and could really care less about your well being!!!!!"

FUCK

Live safe. Live happy (or try to). And by all means live on the streets before even thinking of enlisting in any branch of service. Your country needs you, so give it the finger.

- Stan

-Agent of Chaos-
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wow, talk about horrid. i feel sorry for whoever has a life threatening condition in there.
Blak-Toothgrin - 11 02 09 - 21:34

Only to true Anarchists all over the World::

Wonderful Sisters and Brothers around this World!

There are lots of pages in internet calling themselves “anarchic”. Most of them are not. Anarchy has been fighted down with all dirty means up to now, not at last by setting snitches and agents of the crazy dominators of our societies who call thjemselves Anarchists but do nothing more than to constrict anarchy by doing useless things and to defame Anarchy by telling the untruth about it.

Those affords are only one of the proofs that true Anarchy cannot be stopped if people fight for it. Jesus of Nazarath, Sokrates – they were Anarchists. Martin “Luther” King was an Anarchist in his heart, too. Joan Baez, Country Joe Mc Donald, but also Dan Brwon are thinking anarchic – social life accodrung to the rules of our nature, not one human being against any other, but all human beings in harmony to the sake of all, of any single one!

In Germany we true Anarchists say: “Jede und jeder für jede und jeden!” Means:” Every woman and every man taking care for every woman and every man!”

That is true Community, that is true Anarchy, and that is possible and only possible by returning of whole mankind to the rules of our natural life: Free discussion about everything in front of all, at the end of all discussions the decisions by the reightous and wise women. That is the point You can recognize Dan Brown as an Anarchist: He has understood the true worth of women.

We need an army of all Anarchists and that army must fight in concert. The frontline all over the world is much too long to fight evereywhere at the same time. We have to bound our power and to apply the result at points where we can break the front-line by doing so.

Think about that. Whole German, FRG and Austria together, is the most powerful country in Europe. At the same time it is more spoiled than other countries, because the SS-Devil has clandestetinely survived, did not die in 1945! Think about that.

Think about the effect that a successful revolution of Anarchy in Germany would have!

Be absolutely sure that we German Anrchists are feeling and thinking as true sisters and brothers of all Anarchists around the world. We dont want leadership by order, we want free discussion of all and then decisions by all righteous and reasonable women, not regarding where they are living, which colour they have or something like that.

We accept only one measure tu human beings: Honestest and good heart, then she or he is an Anrchist. Otherwise it is our job tio make her or him an Anarchist.

At this time it is our way to inform German public by entries and articles in Internet written about German crimes in relation to those who are guilty and about SEXUALSCHEMA.

We need all support we can get, and it is the true chance for anarchic revolution around the whole world!

Last century there were two very horrible wars that had started from German ground. We German Anarchists have taken that as an order to start Anarchy from German ground. But we can´t do that alone! We have strong support from ouer wonderful Sisters and Brothers around the World this time, first line from the powerful Community of US-Anarchy.

But very soon we will need all support United Anarchists are able to give. We must crash down the wall in Germany.

Please have a look at the pages I have given the URLS in an comment to evilness of power, and please have a look at:

http://kzdortmund.wordpress.com/
Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 12 02 09 - 05:24

Furthermore I want to set here some entries of mine in German Internet, whre I often write in American/English, too:
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on blog.de:

Wonderful Women and dear Men around the World!

The Community of United Anarchists has enabled me to speak to German People using the first Page of Google for POLIZEI DORTMUND. I have given an explanation above in German language that German State is doing horrible crimes, but that the people should keep considerateness, should inform as many people as possible and should wait for further messages.

Futhermore I have told them about our aims we are fighting for: For a Germany living in peace and true friendship with all other nations and for the happiness of all it´s inhabitants in true freedom and true justice. For a Germany that doesn´t try to walk over other people, neither by military means, nor by economical means or any others, for a Germany that gives it´s best to win the hearts of all other people. We have made experiences with things like that – we German Anarchists as members of United Anarchists. We only know one measure for the worth of human beings: Honest and righteous, or not. And we know that all human beings who are not honest and righteous can get sublimation and so can get honest and righteous. That is our all aim – the aim of United Anarchists. And we are absolutely decided to fight for that at any costs, if possible, without any damage to anyone.

Some words to my wonderful Sisters and Brothers of United Anarchists: It is so very, very greatful to belong to You! You are fighting so gloriously, You are so very brave and You are demonstrating the World one thing that has been dead for a long time: The true Unity of human hearts and minds! And just that is the way the whole mankind has to go!

I love You all very, very much!

Your all

Winfried Sobottka, very proud and delighted to be a member of United Anarchists!!!
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on blog.de:

Wonderful Women, dear Men!

I have sent out the signal on http://www.freegermany.de and I am sure they all will hear me and they all will think and feel as I do. True Unity is the true Power of Anarchy.

German SS-Satanists are always writing in Internet: “Sobottka, You are not an Anarchist and there is no Anarchist with You!”

I tell You proudly that I do belong to the World Wide Community of Anarchy, and I tell You proudly that the World Wide Community of Anarchists knows very well what I am fighting for: For the fulfilling of our all true wishes which is the same as for the fulfilling of all true wishes of whole mankind!

And all of them are knowing our enemy in Germany, the SS-Devil! They all know very well what he has done and what he is able to do!

I would not need to write in American/English for being sure that my words would be heared by my wonderful Sisters and Brothers especially in the U.S.A.! There are enough of us being able to understand German, furthermore our German Hackers all are able to translate very well and quickly and are tied strongly together with all our wonderful Sisters and Brothers in the World.

I often use American/English to demonstrate that we Germans do not want leadership, but Sister- respectively Brotherhood. And of course I want that all people around the World should have the same mother-tongue, and I myself have voted für American/English, indeed. Every human being shall be able to talk to any other, that is my wish concerning that.

Anyway the SS-Satanists should know that my German words have reached our Sisters and Brothers worldwide as well as my English ones.

That means for instance the U.S.-hackers have taken why many of their Uncles and Grandfathers had to die in Germany when there was no chance for a German victory anymore: Because of the evilness and crazyness of the SS.

That means for instance the U.S.-Hackers have taken that not all coloured U.S.-soldiers who were thougt to have been killed in action were really. They have understood that coloured prisoners of war had been abused for pervert medicinal experiments not only in a few cases and the had to die in horrible ways.

And they have understood that the same ghost who was accountable for that is living yet and is doing his diabolic crimes furthermore.
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To German SS-Satanists: the U.S.-Army has beaten Your fathers and grandfathers, and the bravest people of the U.S.A. are as decided to fight down the SS-Devil in Germany as their fathers and grandfathers had been. SS-Satanists, Your under average Internet-Experts should work day and night beginning at this moment. The time in the U.S.A./Eastcoast is around 15.33 p.m. right now, the time in the U.S.A./Westcoast is around 12.35 p.m. right now.

I am sure they will demonstrate what they are thinking of coward and cruel murderers.

SS-Satanists, You should be reasonable before it will be too late for You.
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Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 12 02 09 - 05:25

Wonderful Women, dear Men, I am very confident, all Anarchists are knowing what there is to do.

Your

Winfried Sobottka, a speaker of the wonderful Anarchists and very proud to belong to us!
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on http://tagbuch.freegermany.de :

Dear Sisters and Brothers!

The fight in German internet has entered a new dimension. Our all hackers are fighting on the search-site for:

Polizei Dortmund

Dortmund has more than half a million inhabitants, but that is not all. Dortmund is the central point of State´s Crimes in Nordrhein-Westfalen, Dortmund´s Justice is that Justice for control over all handling of all clerks and executives in Nordrhein-Westfalen, the most powerful federal state within Germany with around 18 millions of people.

The fight on that search-site is a hard point of resistance, but should we conquer it that would be a hard hit for all German State. It would be the signal that World´s Anarchists are fighting united and are not to stop.

German State knows that very well. So it gives his best to prevent our success in that affair. A very hard fight is going just right now. Our German Hackers and our foreign allies are fighting very well, they are giving all. But we cannot reach the aim without suppport by all of You.

So it is my hearty plea to You to call all hackers of Anarchy for this battle in German internet. We need any help.

I have changed the main-site of freegermany. Please have a look at it and please spread it!

http://www.freegermany.de

I love You all, dear true Sisters and Brothers, all German Anarchists love You all!

I have written about that covertly KZ in German words today, the effect is a rising of visitors, not at last from foreign countries. I think there is a wonderful Queen among them who is dreaming of Anarchy. She is fighting against every kind of evilness and she is very sorry about that what in Germany is going on.

I think we shouldn´t accept that a true Queen could be dreaming of Anarchy in vaine! The hearts are with us as long as we are doing right, even the hearts of reasonable Queens and Kings!

That should be an order to all of us, mankind doesn´t deserve Satanism, mankind deserves Anarchy!

I will translate my German entry of today to American/English, and I hope I will have fulfilled it until tomorow at this time.

We will win, everywhere, if we really want it!

I love You!smileysmileysmiley

Your!!!

Winfried
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Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 12 02 09 - 05:27

On http://tagebuch.freegermany.de :

Dear Sisters and Brothers!

Yesterday I found out that in Dortmund had been built the largest subterranean bunker-system of the 3rd German Empire, of the time of Hitler´s rule.

I have been living only 10 miles away from Dortmund City for more than 40 years of my life, but I had never gotten any hint about that! It is very mysterious, isnt´t it?

That I had reported about that in combination with those statements I was told about cruel things running subterranean in Dortmund, police, hospital, law-courts and so on would be connceted by a clandestine subterranean system having been build during the building of the Underground of Dortmund in the 80th of the last century – that I had reported about this things last night brought a monthly record of visitors to freegermany.de: 173 last day.

That thing seems to be very hot. You all should copy the contains to get using the links of yesterday, also the contains of the entries here of yesterday.

One link I had given to http://www.bunker-nrw.de has been cutted for non registered user since then – it handles about murdering by SS in the last weeks before U.S.-Army took Dortmund. The SS-murderers weren´t punished for their murders later!!!

All that means that the devil didn´t die!

I had made a copy of the entry that cannot be reached by the link I had given yesterday and I have published that entry on freegermany:

http://freegermany.de/bunker-nrw/bitterm..

Even those ones who are not able to read German language should copy all that stuff including the contains to reach by links ! This stuff must be given to those one who are able to think and to use it!

It is the horror in front of my door, a horror that nearly no one can imagine, not less than Auschwitz!

Your all

Winfried
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Please think about all that. I tell You there is no other chance to rescue and save the whole mankind than by United Anarchists. And I tell You that using that chance demands concerted acting of all Anarchists as true Sisters and Brothers.

I love You all from the deepest bottom of my heart and all german Anarchists love You all from the deepest bottoms of our hearts!

Your !!!

Winfried Sobottka, United Anarchists
Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 12 02 09 - 05:28

Whoa, got some spam-archy on the site. Winfried, we read all the comments here, there’s no need for multiple posts.

And Stan, that SUCKS. Many soldiers and veterans I have talked to no matter how proud they were to have served and love the country, have serious problems with the military’s health care.
Eric () - 12 02 09 - 05:38

Winfried Sobottka please stop spamming these boards.

And hello stan, good luck to you.
Blak-toothgrin - 12 02 09 - 07:18

There are no multiple postings by me, I had to divide a long entry in several parts because the program refused posting in one entry.

What have blak-toothgrin and Eric ever done for Anarchy? Nothing. They are agents of the dominating Santanists here, those I have mentioned above: Dirty Snitches and Agents with the Order to press down Anarchy while they call theirselves Anarchists!

Blak-toothgrin and Eric: My Name is Winfried Sobottka, I am living in FRG, Karl-Haarmann-Str. 75 in 44536 Lünen (Luenen). My phone is internationmal: 0049 231 986 27 20. My photo is to get for instance on:

http://tagebuch.freegermany.de

What are Your names, where are You living?

I am fighting for Anarchy with all my heart and power, risking my life.

But You are shabby snitches only, so You should shut up! Having understood?

Winfried Sobottka, a speaker of German Anarchists both in FRG as in Austria and a member of United Anarchists.
Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 12 02 09 - 08:16

I having understood, yes.
I’m glad I have someone as high and mighty as yourself telling me to shut up.
Eric () - 12 02 09 - 10:26

Im glad to see videos like this. it may help me show my family some misconceptions they have for the military. being the only considered radical left in my family its hard to express any opinions i may have with out bein shut down almost immediately. due to obligation towards “making them proud”(and numerous other reasons) I must start looking into the military. Anyone who knows me around here knows that is far out at left field. Im stuck in a very stressing predicament, and i am glad to see more of this on here and hear things about the truth in military life that my family considers just an over sight. i can use letters and tools such as this to hopefully get through to them.
AuthorityisSlavery - 12 02 09 - 14:35

Winfried Sobottka Do you know how stupid you sound?
You judge the unknown by saying shit about me when you don’t even know me. you sir are the
true definition of a punk.

I have fought the American government, pushed their boundaries and questioned their authority
so don’t you dare ever say anything about someone you don’t know.
Blak-Toothgrin - 12 02 09 - 15:22

Woow who’s this Winfried guy ?? he’s like a anarcho-primitivist whit a religious cult smell on it :D
Menace - 12 02 09 - 15:38

nah definately not primitivist, he has boundries and rules to his anarchy. does seem quite a bit cult like though with a highly pronounced sense of arrogant and narcissistic behavior. Anarchy around the world will still be vastly different from another depending on wat kind of Authority is trying to control them.
AuthorityisSlavery - 12 02 09 - 16:19

@ Blak-Toothgrin: Up to now I have read only bullshit written by You. You are a big-mouth wtith nothing behind, a snitch who had lied about me (multiple postings).

@ menace, what kind of guy are You? True Anarchists give arguments when they give statements, too. Haven´t You had any edcucation? Were You born in a trash can?

@ eric : You wouldn´t open Your lying mouth as wide while looking inti my eyes.

@ Autorityisslavery: You all should throw this page into the thrasher. Here are writing dump blockheads only, no Anarchists.
Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 12 02 09 - 20:14

Your ignorance incarnate man. If you want to speak bullshit go some where else.
You don’t even want to make agreements, you want to start fights and arguments.
I have lost patience with you and i think everybody else has as well.
I will waist no more of my precious time on you Winfried Sobottka.
Blak-Toothgrin - 12 02 09 - 21:17

w,

the inherent problem is that ‘germany’ exists. you will continue in turmoil until you realize that there is no nationality; yes we are all brothers and sisters. i believe in your sense of social responsibility. the so called ss devil is an ultimate example of bigotry. i would suggest that your movement is just as bad if you are worried about converting non anarchs. live well, lead by example. nothing else is more powerful, or more effective.

how do you determine who are the ‘righteous and reasonable women’ that should be determining the social order? sounds pretty deterministic to me. i sure don’t need anyone to determine what is righteous and reasonable for me. and the reality is that nobody else does either. anarchy pure and free.
[ummichas] - 12 02 09 - 21:31

authorityisslavery,

interesting point:

Anarchy around the world will still be vastly different from another depending on wat kind of Authority is trying to control them.

i think i’ve thought around this point quite a few times without actually putting my finger on it like this.
[ummichas] - 12 02 09 - 21:39

@ Blak-Toothgrin: All people who have read all comments in this thread knwo my words about You are true.
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To all:

In Germany I have uncovered dozens of pages that call theirself critical in any way as botches of the dominators to spy on the people and to build up errors in their minds, in brief to block out resistance.

Eyeryone who has read all comments in this thread has read my central points and has to assess that none of those who are trying to defame me and to devaluate my positions that are really the positions of United Anarchists in Germany has given any argument against my positions.

Furthermore it is an absolute nonsens that Anarchy in different parts of the world should have different faces: The basis of Anarchy are everywehre the same and they would be the same on the moon if human beings would live there, too.

In brief: Here are fuckers writing in the order of the Dominators, nothing else.

The true Anarchists of U.S.A. are supporting our fight in Germany at this time very well and they obviously share our positions. We German Anarchists couldn´t be so very successful if we wouldn´t fight in community with our wonderful Sisters and Brothers in the U.S.A., in Canada and more than 50 other countries:

http://winfried-sobottka-anarchist.blog...

To my wonderful Sisters and Brothers:

Thank You to all our true Sisters and Brothers, You are the best people the world has ever seen, and I am very delighted and very proud to be one of us!

I love You all!

Your!

Winfried Sobottka, a German Anarchist of United Anarchists.
Winfried Sobottka () (URL) - 13 02 09 - 06:30

w,

you live in germany, and are worried about being dominated by the ss neo nazi devil. in fact you call the people on this thread dominators. i live in canada, and i don’t want your problems; i’m not worried about the himlers and all that shite. i know that you’re going to say that i’m going to be dominated too. i’m sorry that you’re an extreme realist winfired, and that you have to live with your tragedy and conflict.

from frg.de:

You see, I´m not regarding myself to be a leader – German anarchists want to be lead by the last word of the righteous/judicious and reasonable Women! But, of course, we male Anarchists want to say, what we want to say, before the righteous and reasonable women close the discussion by their last word.

this is not anarchy either.
[ummichas] - 13 02 09 - 08:54

“Furthermore it is an absolute nonsens that Anarchy in different parts of the world should have different faces”

......hah.
You could start something of a religious war on that premise. “My faith/community is better than yous!”

Anyway, in Germany, not only other parts of the world there are different types such as Green, feminist, and primitive etc etc. They all have different faces, but in the end are all anarchy.
Eric () - 13 02 09 - 09:08

@Winfred

@Blak-toothgrin

@anyone else fightng

stop the fighting you people. This is not anarchy when anarchists fgh each other. Think about it for a second why waste energy and time fighting each other when u could spend it fighting the power and capitalist assholes. This is what the power system wants us to do, they want us to fight each other to break us up because the know were a big threat if we work together.so stop fighting each other n fight whats right
TruePatriot - 13 02 09 - 09:19

wow. i had no idea joining the army was such a commitment. i was seriously considering joining the Canadian Army, i wonder if they have the same thing. because i know several kids who have already joined them
Rafael - 14 02 09 - 09:47

they have a Canadian army?
Blak-Toothgrin - 14 02 09 - 10:46

yes we canadian’s have an army. it is much smaller than the american but they have way more skill or so i here
Rafael - 14 02 09 - 19:49

U.S. troops programed to be cannon fodder and are not really known for skill or high I.Q.‘s
A.O.C. - 14 02 09 - 19:57

haha, blktthgrn, very funny. i have some relations that are in the can forces, and they are VERY serious about saving us from ourselves. in fact, if is wasn’t for the canadian forces, o bin l might have already been elected prime minister.

ps. rafael, please do not enter into the canadian forces. at least our ‘economy’ isn’t completely dependent on the war machine. i think we need to stop encouraging our gov’t that we need to be involved in world affairs. never mind this afghanistan bullshite.
[ummichas] - 14 02 09 - 20:52

Just a little humor to lighten up the mood
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Go Canada!!!
Blak-Toothgrin - 14 02 09 - 21:35

At the time I am writing this, I have only been in attendance at one presentation from a Canadian recruter. As I saw these vidieos, I couldn’t help but think “Made that promise, and that one to, that was kind barely different”, etc. To make matters worse, here we have things called the “cadets”. They are a youth program that have similarities to the scouts, however work towards incouraging members to be part of the military, with programs working towards the uniformity that would be nesisary when they properly inlist. As I know members of these programs personaly, I have seen the mind control they present at work. I tried to free them from this grip once I realised I was a true anarchist, but it was too late.

-Comrad Canuck
C.C - 15 02 09 - 08:59

May I have your attention please. This fourth of july many American anachrist are attempting a trans continental demonstration. We will be striking against the military recruiting offices. This not an ack of war but a declaration of intent, therefore, much care must be taken to not only avoid arrest but to also not harm any humans or animals. Most of the people participating in the action have settled upon mostly property damage to make their statement. Whatever means you use, be sure that the inntent is clear. Together we could make this years 4th of July one to remember.
Hayduke () - 11 06 09 - 23:30

Let’s prove to the world that Anarchy is not chaos through a bloodless revolution. Someday the world will realize that fighting against us is nothing but a big mistake against liberty, humanity, and life.
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