Sigh... another example of how we screw ourselves for our own safety or convenience.
gentlefurie - 07 02 09 - 02:56

‘‘Those who would sacrifice freedom for security will deserve neither.’‘
—benjamin franklin
estevez colbert () (URL) - 07 02 09 - 06:36

I think that while systems of ‘‘world organization’‘ (UN, EU, Real ID) are beneficial in some ways, they ultimately put too much power in too few hands. History and current events prove that oligarchy and corruption often go hand in hand.

Control is never a good thing, or a right thing, no matter what the control is advocating or protecting.

Suck on that, Mr. Cheney! Bite that, European Union! Shove that up your ___, supporters of world control for world peace!

Not that I’m against peace. Peace is great. But it’s how you achieve it that matters.
estevez colbert () (URL) - 07 02 09 - 06:45

i thought the whole “your papers, please” was pretty appropriate.
seeing that it’s almost the same thing with the “real I.D” crap.

and A.O.C you haven’t hit me back yet.
Blak-Toothgrin - 07 02 09 - 10:44

Estevez, you made a minor mistake with the quote from Benjamin Franklin. It dosn’t change the meaning, but for the sake of acuracy, the proper version is “Those who would sacrafice a little freedome for a little security deserve niether and will lose both”. I agree that the situation can be best summarised by this quote, and I have been seing a sadening trend towords this over the last few years. I personally have been trying to limit my use of the ID cards we have up here, but it is sady difficult.

-Comrad Canuc
C.C - 07 02 09 - 10:55

What did you send me Blkthgrn?
A.O.C. - 07 02 09 - 12:18

Well i mentioned having an article that might be good for anarchy.net in the contact section, and some dude replied back and said that it sounded like a good idea and he would review it. so when i sent it in, it said “A.O.C anarchy.net”.
It’s been a couple days since so i was just wondering if anybody had reviewed it yet.

I just thought you were in charge of all that sort of stuff, sorry.
Blak-Toothgrin - 07 02 09 - 13:01

I am, Its just that I get alot of emails every day and sometimes shit falls through the cracks. I will check it in my inbox for it. Srry.
A.O.C. - 07 02 09 - 13:46

it’s from shadow01warrior
Blak-Toothgrin - 07 02 09 - 13:55

So these cards will let people get into our personal info all because some pussys are scared of getting anotehr pane stuck in a building?

Weird because if i remember correctly that we had enough planes in the sky to stop the planes. But for some weird reason they couldn’t go near the plane because they were training.

If you ask me this is just going to sky rocket and soon you won’t be able to do anything but Work, Sleep and Eat because of “Safety Hazards”
"The Unkown" - 08 02 09 - 13:24

ohh everybody is adopting National ID’s i mean its stupid in a way cause only totalitarian societies use such ID’s and article 8 and 14 of the Human Rights Act forbids such ID’s
Meance - 08 02 09 - 13:32

Wait, are you refering to the Universal Decloration of Human Rights, or something else? I ask because I checked the former, and I can’t think of a way to interprit those articles in this manner. Please specify the Act better.

-Comrad Canuck
C.C - 08 02 09 - 15:00

found it, it was on the school systems right?
A.O.C. - 09 02 09 - 16:49

yes my friend
it’s a great article
Blak-Toothgrin - 09 02 09 - 19:17

It’s just another way they can watch us, i wouldn’t doubt that Real ID is just a very small part of a huge agenda that the government has in store for us.
[mumrah] () - 11 02 09 - 13:11

In Colombia, people have a “cedula de ciudadania”. That is the official ID for adults. You need this ID for almost anything in the country. But if you ask me, Colombia is a country where freedom is taken into the individuals hands. I’m not sure if everybody was IDied would be a bad thing.
Camilo () - 09 03 09 - 13:00