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u DO present a good point but thats actualy happening a lil bit and its becoming a problem. people arent buying as much as they used 2 which is causes probs 4 companies forcing them 2 lay people off and/or hire illegal immigrants even more 2 cover there loses there 4 causing more problems than fixing. u see even if something is bad sometimes its better 2 let it exist because trying 2 change it can cause more problems that its fixing
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In defence of the author, the author does not say don’t buy computers, i-pods, etc. Please note “you don’t need ALL ipods, computers…”
We need to stop blaming others for own weaknesses. What you do with your money is your decision. If I am whispering in your ear “give me your money” all day, can you actually blame me when you do give me the money? YOU chose to hand it over. YOU did not walk away.
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The problem with this consumption-driven society is… well, the society itself, of course. We didn’t get here all on our own, but it’s society that has gone to sleep and let this change take over. Paranoia and insecurity has let the government and cooperations creep up behind us and manipulate us.

The problem isn’t nearly as important as the solution, though. What is the solution?
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You say ‘society’ is to blame. We are society. You, me, him, her, that guy, that girl, even that dude over there. Personally I would not label the making of bigger and ‘better’ things as progress. We don’t need things. All we need are food, houses to live in and a bit of love from our fellow human beings. Sadly, tell me if I’m wrong, but it seems there is a trend towards less of these things we need (at best the maintenance of the status quo – I see the homeless and the hungry everywhere) and more of the junk that is marketed (using thoroughly researched brainwashing techniques) on our streets and in every direction we look.
What is the root cause? Perhaps the greed of the majority (all?) of individuals, the state-sponsored promotion of competition (beginning from the first day of the first year of schooling), etc. We are born into a race, told the measure is money, and sent running. There is no first prize, because the race has no end. It is cut short always by that most fatal of circumstances, death.
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I would extend this view to include all people, that no person can blame their desire to purchase a new washing machine on the “government” or on the “evil corporations” or on “Jim the sales guy down the street who sounded so convincing and made me buy it believe me Honey it’s really his fault”.
Society is not asleep, it’s awake and loving every minute of buying it’s little toys and gadgets. Peter that guy with two parents invented that new computer system we all have to have. Jenny that lady with a brother and a pet dog started that business with those clothes I oh so require for my wardrobe. Tony, that nice chap with that gorgeous wife who is such a dear is so funny on that television show of his, I really must watch it. They are people, like you and me. Just people trying to get by and make the most of their opportunities, to make sure their kids have some food and have a place to sleep at night.
Resources are limited, so people compete; it is our nature as a mortal creature.

Solution? My personal favourite solution at the moment is the eradication of the entire human race. We are a plague upon the beauty that is the rest of this world. We are no more than an arrogant animal that has forgotten its place. As it is our place, we can move only so far beyond it before we are corrected by the guiding hand of balance, a correction that I hope comes quickly.

Sorry if this is a little fragmented.
Chad - 21 08 08 - 22:18

I agree. I do beleive that well, as technology evolves our needs do so as well. I do beleive this is becoming a probelem and I see one simple solution. To me the solution is in the big corporations that manufacture and market this devices. If they produce these goods at a much smaller pace then maybe people will be able to keep up and things will get better.
Maria Uribe - 08 09 08 - 16:10

Man, I havent been on this sight in ages. But I’m still surprised that it never really changes…

Anyway, Maria Uribe, to respond to your comment, if the big corporations produce these goods on the production line at a slower rate, the price of the goods would only go up, and their unmatched items would force these people to buy the expensive products regardless of the price. In other words, theoretically, if only one company produces batteries, people would depend that company solely for the highly important batteries. In that way, the battery company controls the price of batteries for all the people, and even if they charge it 50$ a pack, the people would still have to buy it because they need it, regardless of the fact that they would be furious about the price. This is mainly what people fear with large corporations buying out there competitors, therefore, more largely controlling the price on the market. Does that help?

Also, technology will not stop being upgraded as long as there are scientists who will devote themselves towards further research which will be inevitable if supported by the government or corporations. In more a more thiesable (did i spell that right? Damn im stupid) concept, evolution itself is inevitable, in all aspects, as life goes on and the world keeps turning, whether we like it or not. I really hope I shed some light on this thought.

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